On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:40 PM, Gavin Baker <gavin@gavinbaker.com> wrote:
Not to be rude, but these discussions are exactly why I was hoping you'd
start an announce list. I'm interested in your events and major news but
not the decision-making. I suspect there are others like me.

+1  (I hear your concerns)

Here's our request for the announce list:

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28944

I'll bug people to get this implemented ASAP.

Cheers,
Katie

 

On 05/11/2011 10:36 PM, Aude wrote:
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:09 PM, Kat Walsh <kat@mindspillage.org
> <mailto:kat@mindspillage.org>> wrote:
>
>     On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 8:48 PM, James Hare <jamesmhare@gmail.com
>     <mailto:jamesmhare@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>      > I suppose I would've caused much less outrage if I limited the
>      > resolution to "The Treasurer is authorized to spend $96 to go rent a
>      > PO Box somewhere" but I think it's fair for people to know where the
>      > PO Box is and what exactly we're getting out of our money.
>     Conversely,
>      > if I had limited it to "we're getting the small PO Box at the
>      > Friendship Post Office" then there would've been the question
>     "but how
>      > much does it cost?" There would also be the legal question of the
>      > Treasurer being able to spend corporate dollars without being
>      > explicitly authorized to do so (given the present lack of budget). So
>      > while the text of the resolution may be a bit ridiculous, I'm trying
>      > to be as specific as possible in the interest of transparency. By
>      > debating the sausage making on the mailing list, we can use our
>      > in-person meetings for things that are more important and more fun
>      > than debating back-office matters.
>
>     I do agree that it's good to make the details transparent, but I too
>     think that this is more specific than you generally want for a
>     resolution.
>
>     Playing "what if": the Post Office has a budget crisis, and before you
>     go to actually get the box, prices are raised to $100 annually! The
>     Friendship Heights post office moves next door and gets a new address!
>     The "small" boxes are being taken out for wall repairs, but they'll
>     rent you a medium for the same price! You, being diligent in your
>     duties, are on your way to rent the box--or renew it next year--when
>     you discover one of these things, and now you are deeply concerned,
>     because even though these are trivial matters, they're in conflict and
>     require the resolution to be amended.
>
>     What I might do is resolve to rent the box and spend no more than,
>     say, $110, without revisiting the resolution, and in the resolution
>     refer to another document that contains the juicy^W less-important
>     details: that the address of the box must be kept publicly on the
>     website and in the org's records, what specific size and box number
>     you actually got, etc. (You might also want to clarify whether "for a
>     yearlong period" means "for this year only" or "indefinitely, for a
>     year at a time, as long as the other conditions apply".)
>
>
> I support this and allowing a little bit of flexibility, such as "a Post
> Office in the District of Columbia, spending no more than $110".
>
> Cheers,
> Katie
>
>
>
>     Cheers,
>     Kat
>
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