gerald lists wrote:
On 5/8/07, Delphine Ménard notafishz@gmail.com wrote:
yes. However, make sure that the bylaw writing is advertised as much as you can. People only start to join, even in the not-so-fun stuff when you've finally reached a consensus and decide to change everything at the last minute (the wiki way ;-)) or are unhappy that you've done this without them. :-)
A call on various lists and such probably is something you want to do at some point, don't forget the French speakers ;P
Yes. We need someone to translate; I'm disappointed that my written French is horrible and that most of our correspondence has been in English. We had two French people indicate interest, but neither responded to my latest ping. This is a priority, I think. Any volunteers?
Having the by-laws in two languages is not a legal requirement. There are indeed new problems when you have versions of a law in two different languages: In the event of a conflict between the two versions, which one prevails? If someone is familiar with French legalese, by all means that person should go ahead with a French version. Lack of such a version, however, should not be a factor that keeps us from moving ahead.
Well, seeing as the "last minute" seems to be all the rage, we should try to wrap up discussion as quickly as possible. :)
Can we get a complete draft by-law arrangement drawn up by the end of the month? Is that overambitious?
Sure! Who else is volunteering to draft some of the other sections? ... or making specific suggestions about what these sections should contain?
As I've commented before, this has been "in planning" for quite some time.
I'd like to put together a plan that has some kind of timetable, to ensure we're moving forward. I'm
open to
suggestions as to how to do this, as I think we are all after a common goal.
Again, nothing better than someone pushing along that does not stop in mid-flight.
I've had some recent motivation, too. I was trying to approach sponsors for Wikimania. There were a few fairly large places that were willing and seemed ready to give -- but they will give only to a Canadian entity. Since WMF is US based, we aren't in the game until we get this going, which is a bit sad. So let's get this going!!!
Predictable.
We have the membership by-law, which seems to have languished a bit (discussion wise). I'm going to see if we can get a little "free" legal advice on the bylaw elements and their wording.
OK.
Would anyone like to have an IRC meeting so we can float dates and such back and forth? I'd like to believe we can get all of the legwork done before the end of Summer ... but I'm an optimist.
I don't do IRC.
I would hope to have most things provisionally drafted before Wikimania, and be able to meet with members of the Chapters Committee who are there to negotiate an understanding about various issues including naming. A NUANS search can then be made shortly after we all return from Taipei. A 30 day "vote" can then be held to ensure that there is no serious objection to the proposed documentation so that everything can be submitted before the 90-day name reservation period expires.
Unless someone seriously insists that we need a lawyer for filing incorporation, the costs of incorporation appears to be $215.00. Ten charter members at $25.00 each should cover those costs. That should be collected after Wikimania.
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