Hello, I'm the operator of that bot. So, I've something to say on this concerns. That bot only made redirects. Bengali needs third party keyboard support to write, also there are keyboard variations. So, in many cases most of our readers can't write in Bengali while they can see. So, to help our readers, we decided to make redirects in English titles to the existing Bengali articles. In an article, the bot looked to the enwiki interwiki link and made a page on Bengali Wikipedia of that title and redirected that page to the existing Bengali article. But I know, it supposed to be around 22,000 redirects if I ran the bot like this. But there are questions. I hope you all know, every articles have different titles to be searched (case sensitivity, also other names, misspelled names..). For example, Rabindranath Tagore can be searched as "Rabindranath Thakur", "Rabindra Nath Tagore", "Rabindra Nath Thakur", "Rabithakur", "Robithakur".. as so on. It will take a long time to be done by human. So once, my bot found the en interwiki, it searched for the existing redirects of that enwiki articles (since enwiki is far more advanced in this case), and made redirects of that titles too. In this way readers can be guided to their desired articles easily. Personally I think redirects are not evil. Even enwiki articles also have millions of redirects.
Thanks for your understanding.
Regards,
Tanvir Rahman
[[User:Wikitanvir]] On all Wikimedia projects [[m:User:Wikitanvir]] For Wikimedia site matrix
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Bala Jeyaraman sodabottle@gmail.comwrote:
Thanks Jayanta
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 2:19 PM, jayanta nath jayantanth@gmail.comwrote:
The Bot WikitanvirBot_Ihttp://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:WikitanvirBot_I is redirected ( http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/editsummary/index.php?name=WikitanvirBot+I&a...http://toolserver.org/%7Esoxred93/editsummary/index.php?name=WikitanvirBot+I&lang=bn&wiki=wikipedia) on December 2010.
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:14 PM, BalaSundaraRaman <sundarbecse@yahoo.com
wrote:
Indicates some heavy maintenance activity. One indicator is that there's 231% growth in the number of redirects.
- Sundar
"That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted."
- George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture
*From:* Bala Jeyaraman sodabottle@gmail.com *To:* Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia. < wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> *Sent:* Thu, February 10, 2011 10:58:51 AM *Subject:* [Wikimediaindia-l] Bengali wiki in Dec 2010
I was going through the monthly statistics and found Bengali wiki has had 114k edits in December!. New articles number has remained steady but the edits have spiked 7 times in that month.
http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaBN.htm
I am curious. Was there some sort of automated cleanup going on? Can Bengali wiki editors enlighten me.
regards Bala
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Thanks Tanvir for the detailed explanation. To clarify, i didn't have any concerns, i was merely curious about the nature of the increased edits as a 7 fold increase isn't something we usually see.
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Tanvir Rahman wikitanvir@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, I'm the operator of that bot. So, I've something to say on this concerns. That bot only made redirects. Bengali needs third party keyboard support to write, also there are keyboard variations. So, in many cases most of our readers can't write in Bengali while they can see. So, to help our readers, we decided to make redirects in English titles to the existing Bengali articles. In an article, the bot looked to the enwiki interwiki link and made a page on Bengali Wikipedia of that title and redirected that page to the existing Bengali article. But I know, it supposed to be around 22,000 redirects if I ran the bot like this. But there are questions. I hope you all know, every articles have different titles to be searched (case sensitivity, also other names, misspelled names..). For example, Rabindranath Tagore can be searched as "Rabindranath Thakur", "Rabindra Nath Tagore", "Rabindra Nath Thakur", "Rabithakur", "Robithakur".. as so on. It will take a long time to be done by human. So once, my bot found the en interwiki, it searched for the existing redirects of that enwiki articles (since enwiki is far more advanced in this case), and made redirects of that titles too. In this way readers can be guided to their desired articles easily. Personally I think redirects are not evil. Even enwiki articles also have millions of redirects.
Thanks for your understanding.
Regards,
Tanvir Rahman
[[User:Wikitanvir]] On all Wikimedia projects [[m:User:Wikitanvir]] For Wikimedia site matrix
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Bala Jeyaraman sodabottle@gmail.comwrote:
Thanks Jayanta
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 2:19 PM, jayanta nath jayantanth@gmail.comwrote:
The Bot WikitanvirBot_Ihttp://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:WikitanvirBot_I is redirected ( http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/editsummary/index.php?name=WikitanvirBot+I&a...http://toolserver.org/%7Esoxred93/editsummary/index.php?name=WikitanvirBot+I&lang=bn&wiki=wikipedia) on December 2010.
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:14 PM, BalaSundaraRaman < sundarbecse@yahoo.com> wrote:
Indicates some heavy maintenance activity. One indicator is that there's 231% growth in the number of redirects.
- Sundar
"That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted."
- George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture
*From:* Bala Jeyaraman sodabottle@gmail.com *To:* Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia. < wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> *Sent:* Thu, February 10, 2011 10:58:51 AM *Subject:* [Wikimediaindia-l] Bengali wiki in Dec 2010
I was going through the monthly statistics and found Bengali wiki has had 114k edits in December!. New articles number has remained steady but the edits have spiked 7 times in that month.
http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaBN.htm
I am curious. Was there some sort of automated cleanup going on? Can Bengali wiki editors enlighten me.
regards Bala
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কেমন আছেন?? কি কইলেন কিছুই বুঝলাম নাহ। বাংলা উইকি নিয়া বেলায়েত ভাই এবং আপনার সাথে কিছু কথা আছে। সাক্ষাতে কমুনে।
ফয়সাল
--- On Thu, 2/10/11, Tanvir Rahman wikitanvir@gmail.com wrote:
From: Tanvir Rahman wikitanvir@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-BD] [Wikimediaindia-l] Bengali wiki in Dec 2010 To: "Wikimedia India list" wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: "Discussion list for Bangladeshi Wikimedians" wikimedia-bd@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Thursday, February 10, 2011, 1:59 AM
Hello, I'm the operator of that bot. So, I've something to say on this concerns. That bot only made redirects. Bengali needs third party keyboard support to write, also there are keyboard variations. So, in many cases most of our readers can't write in Bengali while they can see. So, to help our readers, we decided to make redirects in English titles to the existing Bengali articles. In an article, the bot looked to the enwiki interwiki link and made a page on Bengali Wikipedia of that title and redirected that page to the existing Bengali article. But I know, it supposed to be around 22,000 redirects if I ran the bot like this. But there are questions. I hope you all know, every articles have different titles to be searched (case sensitivity, also other names, misspelled names..). For example, Rabindranath Tagore can be searched as "Rabindranath Thakur", "Rabindra Nath Tagore", "Rabindra Nath Thakur", "Rabithakur", "Robithakur".. as so on. It will take a long time to be done by human. So once, my bot found the en interwiki, it searched for the existing redirects of that enwiki articles (since enwiki is far more advanced in this case), and made redirects of that titles too. In this way readers can be guided to their desired articles easily. Personally I think redirects are not evil. Even enwiki articles also have millions of redirects.
Thanks for your understanding.
Regards,
Tanvir Rahman
[[User:Wikitanvir]] On all Wikimedia projects [[m:User:Wikitanvir]] For Wikimedia site matrix
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Bala Jeyaraman sodabottle@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Jayanta
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 2:19 PM, jayanta nath jayantanth@gmail.com wrote:
The Bot WikitanvirBot_I is redirected (http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/editsummary/index.php?name=WikitanvirBot+I&a...) on December 2010.
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:14 PM, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbecse@yahoo.com wrote:
Indicates some heavy maintenance activity. One indicator is that there's 231% growth in the number of redirects.
- Sundar
"That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted." - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture
From: Bala Jeyaraman sodabottle@gmail.com To: Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia. wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 10:58:51 AM
Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Bengali wiki in Dec 2010
I was going through the monthly statistics and found Bengali wiki has had 114k edits in December!. New articles number has remained steady but the edits have spiked 7 times in that month.
http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaBN.htm
I am curious. Was there some sort of automated cleanup going on? Can Bengali wiki editors enlighten me.
regards Bala
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