+1 Shabab Bhai..
I think now everyone easy to understand the matter.
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Shabab Mustafa <
shabab.mustafa(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I am changing the subject title to keep this
discussion under correct
heading.
This very thing has bugged me for a long time and I gave it some more
intense thoughts and a little research. Here I am not trying to preach
about what is 'Right' and what is 'Wrong', rather I am just presenting
facts I have discovered and what are my thought on this matter for further
discussion. I will try to keep it as short as possible.
According to the Eighth Amendment of the constitution of Peoples
Republic of Bangladesh, Section 3 reads, "The state language of the
Republic is Bangla"[1]. So, it's clear that Bangladesh has officially
declared the language should be spelled as 'Bangla'. And we are bound to
use 'Bangla' as every official documents and so on.
Bangla is not only spoken in Bangladesh. Bangla is also spoken in least
3 major regions; West Bengal, Tripura, Assam (Barak valley), Andaman and
Nicobar Islands. [2] There is a lot of other people around the world also
speaks Bangla as well.
When we are talking about Bangla in Bangladesh, it's fairly simple. But
it have an international context, situation is different.
ISO (International Organization of Standardization)[3] is the body
responsible for setting international standards. People follow ISO
standards on International matters regardless of their domestic practice
(i.e. some countries use 'Mile' as domestic unit of length, but also use
'Kilometer' when international matters involved) and this is the commonly
accepted manner.
ISO has set up a list of language and their universal codes for it,
which are widely accepted by the UN countries. On 'ISO 639-1' standards[4]
a two-letter code was adopted and 'ISO 639-2' [5] adopted a three-letter
code. For 'Bengali' which are 'bn' and 'ben' respectively. [6]
On this coding system, some language have had initials of their
original form/spelling of their language. Like, Persian. 'Persian' is the
English name of 'Farsi'. Persian has language codes like 'fa' and
'far'. On
'ISO 639-2/T' it adopted the three letters from the English name of the
Language, 'per'. Same thing happened to German and French ('German',
'Deutsch', 'de', 'deu', 'ger' and 'French',
'français', 'fr', 'fra','fre').
[6]
These ISO codes are also widely used on field of IT. Systems recognize
languages with their English names than their native names. This is mainly
because of that a non 'German' speaker doesn't wonder about what
'Deutsch'
is. This rule was applied universally for all the languages. And under this
rule, 'Bangla' became 'Bengali', just like 'Français' became
'French'.
So, the thing is, when we are using 'Bangla' for our domestic use,
'Bangla' is the correct (bound by the constitution) spelling for
'Bangla'.
But when we are talking international matters, it should be 'Bengali' for
more practical and logical reasons.
Ref:
-----
[1]
http://bdlaws.minlaw.gov.bd/sections_detail.php?id=367§ions_id=24550
[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengali_language
[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Organization_for_Standardization
[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_639-1
[5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_639-2
[6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ISO_639-1_codes
---
Shabab Mustafa
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Aditya <aditya(a)asiaticjwt.com> wrote:
> i also support that view. "bangla", not "bengali".
>
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> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 9:03 PM
> To: "Discussion list for Bangladeshi Wikimedians" <
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> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-BD] A good news about Bengali Wikipedia
>
> Can we please mention 'bangla' instead of 'bengali' ?
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Safwan Rahman
>> Sent: 23/01/2014, 13:04
>> To: Discussion list for Bangladeshi Wikimedians
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-BD] A good news about Bengali Wikipedia
>>
>>
>> How they have collected the data and made the statistics?
>>
>> On 1/23/14, Nurunnaby Chowdhury <nh(a)nhasive.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Belayet Bhai,
>>> Times of India published this news. Check this link:
>>>
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2014-01-20/
>>> internet/46374197_1_google-page-views-page-views
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014/1/22 Belayet Hossain <bellayet(a)gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Hasive,
>>>> Thank you for your news at prothom alo. Please give us the original
>>>> reference of that statistics or facts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Belayet
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014/1/22 Nurunnaby Chowdhury <nh(a)nhasive.com>
>>>>
>>>> প্রিয় সবাই,
>>>>> একটা ভালো খবর..
>>>>> ২০১২ সালের ডিসেম্বর থেকে ২০১৩ সালের ডিসেম্বর পর্যন্ত পাওয়া তথ্য
>>>>> অনুযায়ী
>>>>> এক বছরে বাংলা উইকিপিডিয়ার ব্যবহার বেড়েছে ৪৬ শতাংশ। বাংলার পাশাপাশি
>>>>> উইকিপিডিয়ার হিন্দি সংস্করণের ব্যবহার ৩৪ শতাংশ, মালায়ালাম সংস্করণ ৩৬
>>>>> শতাংশ,
>>>>> মারাঠি সংস্করণ ৪ শতাংশ এবং তেলেগু ১ শতাংশ বেড়েছে। এ নিয়ে আজ প্রথম
>>>>> আলোতে
>>>>> প্রকাশিত সংবাদ:
>>>>>
>>>>> *বাংলা উইকিপিডিয়ার ব্যবহার
>>>>>
বেড়েছে*<http://www.prothom-alo.com/technology/article/128638>
>>>>>
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>>>>
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