Hello theo,
You have a point. I have to agree with you on some of your statements if not all. I've not blamed anybody - I've asked. And the previous initiative failed because some of us didn't helped and waited to see them failed.
May the chapter be a success.
regards mak_
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Theo10011 de10011@gmail.com wrote:
Hi
I want to clarify that there is no such rule that a chapter has to be made up of the most active contributors to a single project, to the contrary, I can point to several chapters who were formed by semi-active editors, some who barely ever edited. There are also instances, when active community members have no idea that someone from their country is forming or has formed a chapter.
I am not familiar with the circumstances of this case, but by your own logic, would someone with the highest edit count (the person you mentioned has 2nd highest) or 'crat rights have more entitlement to form the chapter?
It's about doing the work, the page on Meta has been there for a couple of years, there were ample opportunity to actually do the work and form the chapter, no one did. Now, that someone took the initiative and did the work, you are blaming them for not consulting the people who didn't finish it before, seems odd.
Theo10011
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 3:53 PM, mak mahayalamkhan@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Munir bhai, Thanks you asked. Let me go to the point straight.
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Munir Hasan munir.hasan@bdosn.orgwrote:
Dear MAK,
I do not understand your point!!! Would you please clarify?
Since, the Article is now drafted and is being published. So, if anybody has any point, he/she can asked for any change. There is no harm! The team (which i am also a part) did this because, as Shabab explain, we discuss lot of times but nobody drafted the documents. So, this team drafted this.
We can discuss on the issues related to chapters.
And, the name in the list, is an interim one, once the chapter formed, then the membership will be open up for all wikipedians and in first general meeting they can formed their committee.
Mr. Belayet Hossain[1] a sysop with the 2nd highest[2] edit count in Bengali Wikipedia, one of the two moderator of this list, 3 times Wikimania attendee and an active offline wiki campaigner[3] have had took initiatives for Bangladesh Chapter, why you are not mentioning that? The ChapCom members should know that. Why he is not in the interim committee. Has he denied to be in there. He said in his post in this thread that he was not even informed.
If this interim committee felt from their gut that they should start the process, they should have contacted and asked to join.
Is not it standard practice of all organization?
This might be the practice in Bangladesh, but not for the Open Source and Open standard groups through out the world. At least the groups (Fedora, LibreOffice, GNOME etc.) I'm member don't follow any procedure of so called startup-team formed behind veil.
[http://bit.ly/kOvS1Q] [http://toolserver.org/~vvv/yaec.php?user=bellayet&wiki=bnwiki_p] [http://bellayet.wordpress.com/]
Dear ChapCom members, please go through belayet's blog and you'll find if he deserve something or not.
Have a nice day mak_
So, I think we should discuss how we can start the chapter quickly and definitely with a good AoA/MoA in hand.
Hope, we will all do that.
Best wishes
Munir
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 3:17 PM, mak mahayalamkhan@gmail.com wrote:
Shabab,
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Shabab Mustafa < shabab.mustafa@gmail.com> wrote:
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So some active community members formed a small team with interested persons to work more seriously on this and to speed up the process.
Are you sure, active community members formed that small team and no interested persons were refrained to contribute.
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regards mak_
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