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De : Nicolas VIGNERON <vigneron.nicolas(a)gmail.com>
Date: lun. 25 avr. 2022 à 18:22
Subject: Re: [Wikidata] New "mul" term language code available on Test Wikidata
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Great news !
Now, we need to figure out how exactly to use it editorially.
I'm thinking for instance about articles - mentioned in the first task
- where there is a redundancy but still an actual language ; I can see
several ways we could implement a new and less redundant model : just
using mul and the property title to indicate the actual language, or
using mul and the actual language.
In both cases redundancy will be much much lower (quick guesstimate
around a billion triples less! so it's really a great news.
Cheers,
Nicolas
Le lun. 25 avr. 2022 à 17:54, Mohammed Sadat Abdulai
<mohammed.abdulai(a)wikimedia.de> a écrit :
>
> (This change is relevant for all Wikidata users working with labels, descriptions,
and aliases.)
>
>
> Based on a long-standing community request we have enabled a new language code for
labels, descriptions, and aliases on Test Wikidata: “mul”, a special language code meaning
“multiple languages”. It is intended to replace the current duplication of certain labels
and aliases in many languages: instead of the given name Douglas (Q463035) having the
label “Douglas” in hundreds of Latin-script languages, it should be enough to add it once
as the “mul” label and have all other languages falling back to that (before, as usual,
falling back to “en” as a last resort). This should reduce the amount of redundant data in
Wikidata, and relieve some pressure from the query service. A big thank you goes to all
people involved in the discussions!
>
>
> The purpose of the Test Wikidata version of this feature is to determine whether the
current functionality is already sufficient, or whether the feature needs more work before
it can be enabled on Wikidata proper.
>
>
> Current implementation:
>
> You can interact with the new language code using the API.
>
> The new language code appears in the table of labels at the top of an item page for
users whose Babel information includes “mul” (or who use ?uselang=mul in the URL). If
there is already a “mul” label, it will be available for everyone under the usual “all
entered languages” option.
>
> The page heading will fall back to the “mul” label if necessary. Fallbacks to “mul”
have the usual “indicator” that shows a fallback took place (CSS class
wb-language-fallback-mul).
>
>
> For more details, see T285156 (or T297393 for the Test Wikidata implementation). You
are welcome to leave any feedback about the technical implementation of the new language
code on these tickets.
>
>
> The new language code will very likely need adjustment of Wikidata policies and
guidelines. In case you would like to contribute to drafting preliminary new guidelines, a
good starting point is: Help talk:Label#Drafting of guidelines for new language code mul.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
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