Hello,
unfortunatelly the commons copy on s1-user got terribly broken so I have to resetup this DB.
But I do have another copy of s4 on z-dat-s4-a that I will use for dumping (I will have to stop replication in the mean time)
I will do this on
Friday after 7 pm UTC
which mean commons will not be available on this host until resetup has finished.
Cheers
Marlen/nosy
Hello to all tool maintainers!
It was good to see several of you in person this weekend! Faces ftw! :)
Here is a status update with what is now working in Tool Labs:
First of all (looking at DaB.s survey and your comments):
You _don't_ have to care about virtual instances, puppet or any of
this. This is underneath/behind Tool Labs but you can just use the
login server without having to know about it.
What you get:
* login server made to resemble the toolserver
* database replicas from s1-s6, s7 is following in June. Access to all
data you can access as a registered, unprivileged user.
* possibility to create your own user databases
* shared project storage, home directories (nfs)
* possibility to add maintainers to your project via the web interface
on http://tools.wmflabs.org/
* possibility to restore your files to the state they were in 1, 2, 3
hours ago, 1, 2, 3 days ago and on the last 2 Sundays.
* infrastructure to run web services
* job system: OpenGridengine
* two different environments to develop tools in: "Tools" project
which is a stable environment, "Bots" project which can be used for
experiments with the environment, root access is possible in the
latter.
* bug tracking in WMF's Bugzilla (product: Wikimedia Labs, components:
bots and tools for the two projects)
* more stuff that is mentioned in the road map (link below).
What we are still on:
* documentation (let's crowdsource this!)
* make Merlissimo's MerlLinkBot hunt down deprecated weblinks and
point them to your tools' new URL.
Looking for things you can help with?
* Write down you experiences like some already did: Magnus Manske:
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Magnus_Manske/Migrating_from_tools…
or Russell Blau:
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Russell_Blau/Using_pywikibot_on_La…
* Help to improve the user interface of tools.wmflabs.org! Contact
Coren/Marc-Andre Pelletier.
Links:
Tool Labs help: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Tools/Help
FAQ (ongoing collection of what you ask):
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Labs/Migration_of_Toolserver_tools
Road map: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Tool_Labs/Roadmap_en (English)
and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Tool_Labs/Roadmap_de (German)
What's next?
Please come and try out the new database replication!
If your tool is up and running in Tool Labs, _please consider
documenting_ what you missed in the docs. By doing so you will help
others a lot!
Don't hesitate to ask! The best places to ask questions:
* IRC (#wikimedia-labs), where Coren and petan (as Tool Labs admins)
and many other experienced people hang around
* the list labs-l (https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/labs-l)
Do your tools need more adaptations than you think you can do?
Wouldn't mind a helping hand? Ask me and I'll try to find you a
helper!
Best, Silke
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Hi all!
Let me introduce Alexander Mette, the new toolserver admin who came to
support DaB. and Nosy! Welcome! As soon as he is a bit more in touch
with the toolserver, he would like to meet you in an office hour.
(Will be announced separately.)
You can reach him via e-mail as alexander.mette(a)wikimedia.de and on
IRC as amette.
Cheers,
Silke
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Tel. (030) 219 158 260
http://wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V.
Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das
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Hello all,
as you have surely noticed the toolserver is even more unstable and unreliable
than normal at the moment. The reason is that our ha-nodes are not longer
working as intended and neither Nosy nor I are able to fix this.
A quick word was ha-nodes are: The "ha" stands for "high available" and we
have 2 servers for that. Some services at the toolserver are so important that
a downtime is unacceptable (like /home, LDAP or the DNS) and for this reasons
these services life at the ha-nodes. If one server goes down or crashes then
the other can continue to operate all services with no or little interruption
time and without working by a root. That worked great as long as River was
here and not-so-good in the last months, but now it is totally broken.
The problem is that both ha-nodes run Solaris and all roots are no Solaris-
experts what makes it hard for us to find errors or in this case impossible. We
have setup a very ugly workaround, but it is not stable and so the downtime of
important services cause downtime for the hole toolserver – and more work for
the roots.
We can only think of one solution: Replacing the solaris at the ha-nodes with
linux. But this can not start before Friday and it will take some time until
everything is moved over. It will also cause some hours of complete downtime
while /home is copied (we will separately announce this). In best case when
Whitsun is over everything will be working again, in worst case it will need 2
weeks (I will be away between 21 and 26 for the general meeting of WMDE).
The repairing of the ha-nodes has top priority, so everything else will be
delayed (linux-update, database-reimports, account-creation (for VERY
important ones send me a mail), etc.).
If you have questions, please send them to the ML.
Sincerely,
DaB.
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Hello all.
Today Debian 7 was released as the new stable version. I now that some of you
are eager to upgrade so you can get new version of programs. We will not
disappoint you and so for I announce a maintenance for
SUNDAY, 12. May 12:00 UTC
for the userland-servers. You can find the complete list of updates at [1], and
a short summary below. If you notice a problem please leave a comment in the
bug or at the mailing-list so the admins can look for a solution; please
notice that most of the removals are just renamings – make sure to check the
"New"-section also.
Sincerely,
DaB.
Updates:
bash 4.1 → 4.2
emacs 23 → 45
g++ 4.4 → 4.7
gcj 4.4 → 4.7
libboost 1.42 → 1.49
libc6 2.11 → 2.13
mono 2.6 → 2.10
perl 5.10 → 5.14
php5 5.3 → 5.4
vim 7.2 → 7.3
New:
python2.7
ruby1.9
[1] https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/MNT-1322
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Hello,
At Sunday 12 May 2013 02:48:40 DaB. wrote:
> Is this a side effect of the maintenance?
the server oh which we had setup the temporary solution yesterday crashed
today. During the last 2.5h I tried to restarted the nfs-server but I was not
successful and I am out of ideas now. Because Nosy didn't documented what she
did yesterday I can not just repeat it and we have to wait until she is
available again. Until Nosy fix the problem again, the toolserver will be out-
of-order – I know that that sucks but I can not change it.
Sincerely,
DaB.
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Hello all,
until now I had the impression that we (you, the authors, and me) fight
together against WMF and WMDE for keeping the Toolserver and against Labs.
Some mails and discussion in the last days gives me now the impression that
this was wrong and (at least some of) you are eager to leave the toolserver as
soon as possible.
There is no point to beg the WMDE for new hardware and to invest much more
time if 2 weeks after Labs is "ready" the toolserver will be empty. For this
reason I created a survey at [1] that starts at midnight. Please take a moment
of your time and place your nick in the section that suits you.
Sincerely,
DaB.
[1] https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Labs-Moving-Survey
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Hello,
I will move dewiki for cassia off the SAN back to the local storage.
This will happen on
Friday, 3rd May 1900-2100 UTC
I will take this copy of s5-rr offline but due to the other copy of s5-rr you will probably not experience downtime but slower answers.
Kind regards
Marlen/nosy
Hi all!
Let me shortly summarize the comments on the roadmap's discussion pages:
There were no comments about the actual roadmap but feedback
concerning these two topics:
1) What's going to migrate and what isn't?
* Until now, it's not clear which tools will not be able to move. Or
which maintainers might decide not to move and why. People are curious
about this but tool maintainers would have to talk about it for us to
find out.
2) Bad Tool Labs experience:
* How fast is the account creation process right now? A tool
maintainer reported that he spontaneously had some time to think about
migrating. He requested an account but then waited for two weeks to
get it. For people working on tools in their spare time this is too
long.
* Documentation has to be improved! Good overviews are needed as well
as a detailed documentation of everything relevant to working in Tool
Labs.
* An example: You get strange messages and can't find any information
on them, e.g. this one: "Your user rights were changed by Andrew
Bogott. You are now a member of this group: shell. Learn more". By
clicking onto it, you get a list of permissions: "loginviashell".
There is a red link pointing to "Wikitech:Shell". The user is
confused.
* Who is responsible for documentation? (I'm not sure I answered this
correctly: It's not clear to me how much the Tool Labs docs overlap
with general Labs docs and who is responsible for that part. Or is the
Tool Labs documentation isolated from the rest???)
Cheers, Silke
2013/4/19 Silke Meyer <silke.meyer(a)wikimedia.de>:
> Hi all!
>
> As you know Wikimedia Deutschland has the mandate to create a roadmap
> for the availability of features on Wikimedia Labs / Tool Labs that are
> currently available on the Toolserver until the next membership assembly
> (May 25th). I have worked on this for the last weeks and now published a
> draft. I would like to get your feedback on this draft to make sure it
> is sound and nothing vital is missing. The current version is not final
> but hopefully very close to what will be presented at the membership
> assembly next month.
>
> The plan has been drafted in close cooperation with the responsible
> people at the Wikimedia Foundation. It still needs a final ok from them
> though.
>
> You can find the drafts at:
>
> English version: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Tool_Labs/Roadmap_en
>
> German version: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Tool_Labs/Roadmap_de
>
> To not spread out discussions too far please use the discussion pages of
> the above two pages for comments, suggestions and corrections.
>
> Cheers, Silke
>
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> Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver
>
> Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin
> Tel. (030) 219 158 260
>
> http://wikimedia.de
>
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> unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt
> für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.
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Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin
Tel. (030) 219 158 260
http://wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V.
Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das
Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.