he claims zero people have been sued for using buildings in their photos on facebook. Is this actually the case? It would be nice to reply if people have actually been approached by a right holder that their holiday picture on facebook was not allowed (under french/italian etc law). I almost cant imagine this never happened (although I guess nobody would let something silly like that get to court...) Lodewijk On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 12:08 AM, Marcin Cieslak <saper(a)saper.info> wrote:

Yes, I got the point with the zero people being sued. What is also interesting is him comparing Wikipedia to some "american monopoly". Yes, Americans wrote also French Wikipedia, thanks to their education system giving them an excellent French knowledge :-D   (just joking, but it is hard to reason with such a bull****)...   The reason why I asked for a translation is to get some nunaces from his press release. And to be able to counterattack them in the upcoming materials that will be prepared for Czech Greens or Pirates...   All best   Jan   ______________________________________________________________ On Mon, 29 Jun 2015, L.Gelauff wrote: I don't think so and this actually makes a whole problem worse. Because copyright started to concern everybody (i.e. everybody posessing an Internet-connected device is both an author, published and a user of copyrighted works), it is also equally and generally ignored. The copyright law is ignored, UNLESS you step on somebody's toe, especially if that somebody is important. So we create an immoral situation, where the law is generally ignored (also because of lack of knowledge) but it sits somewhere in the corner like a gun that can be anytime used against you. Some police units search computers routinely for unlicensed software - it's easier than other works, since usually some fair use provisions do not apply; and if something is found a pressure is created against the person owning the equipment, especially in case of smaller/petty crimes or misdemeanors. So basically those few Big Artists are creating a chilling effect on everybody; regardless of what I think about Facebook terms of use or about Web 2.0 abuse of Internet users' rights I object to criminalize millions of people because of some vested interests. Holiday photos are mostly irrelevant. ~Marcin _______________________________________________ Advocacy_Advisors mailing list Advocacy_Advisors(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/advocacy_advisors <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/advocacy_advisors>