Hello Ted,
I am cross-posting your email for the advocacy advisory group.
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Ted Chien hsiangtai.chien@gmail.comwrote:
My dear colleagues,
Recently on May 21 the Taiwan Intellectual Property Office has announced that they will amend the Copyright Act to demand local ISPs to block illegal contents on foreign websites, just like the SOPA bill in USA last year. For more information, you can read the following news reports:
Focus Taiwan: http://focustaiwan.tw/news/aall/201305210035.aspx
ZDNet:
http://www.zdnet.com/cn/taiwans-copyright-act-amendment-proposal-comes-under...
Now there are many Taiwan netizens protesting the bill:
http://globalvoicesonline.org/2013/05/26/netizens-fear-copyright-amendment-w...
But today we just see an news that TIPO just ignored these protests and insist that this bill will not harm the net freedom and rights of general users:
http://newtalk.tw/news/2013/05/28/36854.html (it's in Chinese, you may use Google translate to read the news.)
Indeed we should protect the copyright, but to ask ISPs to block websites is too over-reaction.
We Wikimedia Taiwan is now against the bill and has just released an Chinese announcement on our official website to explain why we against the bill and ask the government to stop the act:
We also started an discussion on zh.wp to ask the community if we could put the announcement as an global site notice, we even think about blackout zh.wp for 24 hours (the date is still in discussion):
This is because according to Alexa.com (http://Alexa.com), Wikipedia is now the top 10 website in Taiwan. To blackout Wikipedia in Taiwan should get the attention of TIPO and has some effects.
My questions are:
- Could we ask for blackout Wikipedia (not just zh.wp) ONLY for Taiwan IP?
(Some users from China hope this blackout will not effect them)
- If we could not blackout Wikipedia only for Taiwan IP, could we ask to
blackout zh.wp? (from what we have discussed on zh.wp, the Chinese community has agreed on such blackout, but the date is still on discussion)
- If we could implement such blackout, how soon it can be done?
- What suggestions from you that we should do as an local Chapter?
Thanks and Regards, Ted Chien Chairman Wikimedia Taiwan -- Blog: htttp://htchien.tw (http://htchien.tw/) Facebook: http://facebook.com/htchien Twitter: http://twitter.com/htchien LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/htchien _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Hi Stephen, thanks for the forwarding, much appreciated.
Regards, Ted Chien -- Blog: htttp://htchien.tw (http://htchien.tw/) Facebook: http://facebook.com/htchien Twitter: http://twitter.com/htchien LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/htchien
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On 2013年5月29日Wednesday at 上午12:38, Stephen LaPorte wrote:
Hello Ted,
I am cross-posting your email for the advocacy advisory group.
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Ted Chien <hsiangtai.chien@gmail.com (mailto:hsiangtai.chien@gmail.com)> wrote:
My dear colleagues,
Recently on May 21 the Taiwan Intellectual Property Office has announced that they will amend the Copyright Act to demand local ISPs to block illegal contents on foreign websites, just like the SOPA bill in USA last year. For more information, you can read the following news reports:
Focus Taiwan: http://focustaiwan.tw/news/aall/201305210035.aspx
ZDNet: http://www.zdnet.com/cn/taiwans-copyright-act-amendment-proposal-comes-under...
Now there are many Taiwan netizens protesting the bill:
http://globalvoicesonline.org/2013/05/26/netizens-fear-copyright-amendment-w...
But today we just see an news that TIPO just ignored these protests and insist that this bill will not harm the net freedom and rights of general users:
http://newtalk.tw/news/2013/05/28/36854.html (it's in Chinese, you may use Google translate to read the news.)
Indeed we should protect the copyright, but to ask ISPs to block websites is too over-reaction.
We Wikimedia Taiwan is now against the bill and has just released an Chinese announcement on our official website to explain why we against the bill and ask the government to stop the act:
We also started an discussion on zh.wp to ask the community if we could put the announcement as an global site notice, we even think about blackout zh.wp for 24 hours (the date is still in discussion):
This is because according to Alexa.com (http://Alexa.com) (http://Alexa.com), Wikipedia is now the top 10 website in Taiwan. To blackout Wikipedia in Taiwan should get the attention of TIPO and has some effects.
My questions are:
- Could we ask for blackout Wikipedia (not just zh.wp) ONLY for Taiwan IP?
(Some users from China hope this blackout will not effect them)
- If we could not blackout Wikipedia only for Taiwan IP, could we ask to
blackout zh.wp? (from what we have discussed on zh.wp, the Chinese community has agreed on such blackout, but the date is still on discussion)
- If we could implement such blackout, how soon it can be done?
- What suggestions from you that we should do as an local Chapter?
Thanks and Regards, Ted Chien Chairman Wikimedia Taiwan -- Blog: htttp://htchien.tw (http://htchien.tw) (http://htchien.tw/) Facebook: http://facebook.com/htchien Twitter: http://twitter.com/htchien LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/htchien _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org (mailto:Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org) Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
-- Stephen LaPorte Legal Counsel Wikimedia Foundation
For legal reasons, I may only serve as an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation. This means I may not give legal advice to or serve as a lawyer for community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity.
Hello Ted,
I saw that the "Taiwan SOPA" bill has been withdrawn, at least temporarily. Good work!
"The decision came after Wikimedia Taiwan, a non-profit social group, voiced strong opposition on June 1 to the plan, which would have allowed the IPO to determine which websites could be blocked rather than judicial authorities."
http://focustaiwan.tw/news/aall/201306030037.aspx
* See also: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130611/00503223401/public-outcry-taiwan-k...
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Ted Chien hsiangtai.chien@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Stephen, thanks for the forwarding, much appreciated.
Regards, Ted Chien -- Blog: htttp://htchien.tw http://htchien.tw/ Facebook: http://facebook.com/htchien Twitter: http://twitter.com/htchien LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/htchien
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On 2013年5月29日Wednesday at 上午12:38, Stephen LaPorte wrote:
Hello Ted,
I am cross-posting your email for the advocacy advisory group.
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Ted Chien hsiangtai.chien@gmail.comwrote:
My dear colleagues,
Recently on May 21 the Taiwan Intellectual Property Office has announced that they will amend the Copyright Act to demand local ISPs to block illegal contents on foreign websites, just like the SOPA bill in USA last year. For more information, you can read the following news reports:
Focus Taiwan: http://focustaiwan.tw/news/aall/201305210035.aspx
ZDNet:
http://www.zdnet.com/cn/taiwans-copyright-act-amendment-proposal-comes-under...
Now there are many Taiwan netizens protesting the bill:
http://globalvoicesonline.org/2013/05/26/netizens-fear-copyright-amendment-w...
But today we just see an news that TIPO just ignored these protests and insist that this bill will not harm the net freedom and rights of general users:
http://newtalk.tw/news/2013/05/28/36854.html (it's in Chinese, you may use Google translate to read the news.)
Indeed we should protect the copyright, but to ask ISPs to block websites is too over-reaction.
We Wikimedia Taiwan is now against the bill and has just released an Chinese announcement on our official website to explain why we against the bill and ask the government to stop the act:
We also started an discussion on zh.wp to ask the community if we could put the announcement as an global site notice, we even think about blackout zh.wp for 24 hours (the date is still in discussion):
This is because according to Alexa.com (http://Alexa.com), Wikipedia is now the top 10 website in Taiwan. To blackout Wikipedia in Taiwan should get the attention of TIPO and has some effects.
My questions are:
- Could we ask for blackout Wikipedia (not just zh.wp) ONLY for Taiwan IP?
(Some users from China hope this blackout will not effect them)
- If we could not blackout Wikipedia only for Taiwan IP, could we ask to
blackout zh.wp? (from what we have discussed on zh.wp, the Chinese community has agreed on such blackout, but the date is still on discussion)
- If we could implement such blackout, how soon it can be done?
- What suggestions from you that we should do as an local Chapter?
Thanks and Regards, Ted Chien Chairman Wikimedia Taiwan -- Blog: htttp://htchien.tw (http://htchien.tw/) Facebook: http://facebook.com/htchien Twitter: http://twitter.com/htchien LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/htchien _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
-- Stephen LaPorte Legal Counsel Wikimedia Foundation
*For legal reasons, I may only serve as an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation. This means I may not give legal advice to or serve as a lawyer for community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity.*
On 5/28/13 9:38 AM, Stephen LaPorte wrote:
My questions are: * Could we ask for blackout Wikipedia (not just zh.wp) ONLY for Taiwan IP? (Some users from China hope this blackout will not effect them)
From a technical perspective, yes. This could be implemented as a geotargeted CentralNotice banner limited to Taiwan. In theory all Wikimedia projects could be blacked out in Taiwan only.
* If we could implement such blackout, how soon it can be done?
If you have people who are willing to code the blackout banner in CentralNotice, it could be implemented immediately. If you need technical support on this or want to actually lock zh.wiki to be read-only during the blackout, that will require assistance from the WMF and thus some spin-up time. The en.wiki blackout was implemented as a CentralNotice banner, although we also locked the project to prevent people who had Javascript disabled from getting around the blackout (which may have been overkill in my opinion). If you want to study the en.wiki blackout banner, it can be seen here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralNoticeBanners/edit/blackout
Ryan Kaldari
publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org