Touché. "Digital skeptic" indeed 🙄
On Tue, 26 Mar 2019, 20:45 Jan Gerlach, jgerlach@wikimedia.org wrote:
Friends, we may have our disagreements with this songwriter from the 1990s, but let's stay polite!
On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 1:40 PM Owen Blacker owen@openrightsgroup.org wrote:
Well he's quite the wanker, isn't he?
On Tue, 26 Mar 2019, 20:09 Liam Wyatt, liamwyatt@gmail.com wrote:
And the very weird gloating has begun https://twitter.com/davidclowery/status/1110513807036727296?s=21
On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 at 20:54, Ryan Kaldari rkaldari@wikimedia.org wrote:
To look on the bright side, at least this means that we'll win the Reiss-Engelhorn Museum v. Wikimedia Foundation lawsuit (due to article 14 of the directive). As to the rest of it, quite disappointing indeed.
On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 9:10 AM Jan Gerlach jgerlach@wikimedia.org wrote:
Thanks for sending this over, Mārtiņš!
Here's our statement: https://twitter.com/wikimediapolicy/status/1110572603217862656
On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 7:31 AM Mārtiņš Bruņenieks martinsb@gmail.com wrote:
Detailed voting data available:
Votes: 22.whether to accept amendments 23.approve directive
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//NONSGML+PV+20190...
Just these votes on Julia Reda's web page: https://juliareda.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/copyrightvote.pdf
Mārtiņš
On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 2:05 PM Jan Gerlach jgerlach@wikimedia.org wrote:
> So close. More work to do towards national implementation. We'll > have a statement out later today. > > Thanks for your help, everyone! > > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 4:59 AM Katherine Maher < > kmaher@wikimedia.org> wrote: > >> So narrow, that hurts. >> >> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 12:56 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov < >> dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Sorry, that was the vote on whether to accept amendments. >>> >>> The Directive was approved 348-274. >>> >>> D >>> >>> На вт, 26.03.2019 г. в 12:53 ч. Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov < >>> dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com> написа: >>> >>>> Directive approved >>>> by 5 votes >>>> 317 to 312 >>>> >>>> На вт, 26.03.2019 г. в 10:09 ч. Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov < >>>> dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com> написа: >>>> >>>>> Hello all, >>>>> >>>>> Today after 12:30 we expect the European Parliament in >>>>> Strasbourg to vote on the copyright file. >>>>> >>>>> First there will be a vote on whether to allow amendments or >>>>> just vote the entire package as is. Only if there is a majority for that >>>>> will votes on deleting Articles 11 and 13 be allowed. I am attaching a >>>>> voting list with recommendations on Article 13, so you can follow the vote. >>>>> >>>>> Stream is here: >>>>> http://www.europarl.europa.eu/website/webstreaming.html?event=20190326-0900-... >>>>> >>>>> What happens if the reform is passed as is: >>>>> The Council will nod this off at a General Council meeting on 9 >>>>> April. Then it will be published in the official journal and Member States >>>>> will have 24 months to transpose the new rules. In this case we will work >>>>> on national implementations. There is a lot we can to remedy *some* of the >>>>> effects of Article 13 & open the door to future litigation. We can also >>>>> widen the gains some of the exceptions provide at least nationally. >>>>> >>>>> What happen is the European Parliament amends the reform: >>>>> The entire text goes to Council and then the Member States >>>>> governments need to decide if they accept it as is or want to further amend >>>>> it and negotiate with the EP. In this case we focus on the EP elections, as >>>>> a move before them would be unlikely. >>>>> >>>>> Very hypothetical: >>>>> If a country, such as Germany for instance, suddenly changes its >>>>> behaviour on 9 April, it could theoretically still stop the package. But >>>>> copyright is already agreed upon in Council and put down as an "A item" for >>>>> the 9 April meeting. A items are considered purely procedural, get nodded >>>>> off and not even discussed (as agreement and a vote have already taken >>>>> place). There is only one time, to my knowledge, that such an A item was >>>>> pulled back. The Software Patents Directive. I think it is extremely >>>>> unlikely to happen again. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks everyone for you help and support. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers from Strasbourg, >>>>> Dimi >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>> Publicpolicy mailing list >>> Publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >>> >> -- >> >> Katherine Maher (she/her) >> >> Executive Director >> >> Wikimedia Foundation https://wikimediafoundation.org/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Publicpolicy mailing list >> Publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >> > _______________________________________________ > Publicpolicy mailing list > Publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy > _______________________________________________ Publicpolicy mailing list Publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy
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