On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 at 20:54, Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
To look on the bright side, at least this means
that we'll win the
Reiss-Engelhorn Museum v. Wikimedia Foundation lawsuit (due to article 14
of the directive). As to the rest of it, quite disappointing indeed.
On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 9:10 AM Jan Gerlach <jgerlach(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
> Thanks for sending this over, Mārtiņš!
>
> Here's our statement:
>
https://twitter.com/wikimediapolicy/status/1110572603217862656
>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 7:31 AM Mārtiņš Bruņenieks <martinsb(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Detailed voting data available:
>>
>> Votes:
>> 22.whether to accept amendments
>> 23.approve directive
>>
>>
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//NONSGML+PV+2019…
>>
>>
>> Just these votes on Julia Reda's web page:
>>
https://juliareda.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/copyrightvote.pdf
>>
>>
>> Mārtiņš
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 2:05 PM Jan Gerlach <jgerlach(a)wikimedia.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So close. More work to do towards national implementation. We'll
>>> have a statement out later today.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help, everyone!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 4:59 AM Katherine Maher <
>>> kmaher(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So narrow, that hurts.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 12:56 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <
>>>> dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, that was the vote on whether to accept amendments.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Directive was approved 348-274.
>>>>>
>>>>> D
>>>>>
>>>>> На вт, 26.03.2019 г. в 12:53 ч. Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <
>>>>> dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov(a)gmail.com> написа:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Directive approved
>>>>>> by 5 votes
>>>>>> 317 to 312
>>>>>>
>>>>>> На вт, 26.03.2019 г. в 10:09 ч. Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <
>>>>>> dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov(a)gmail.com> написа:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Today after 12:30 we expect the European Parliament in
>>>>>>> Strasbourg to vote on the copyright file.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First there will be a vote on whether to allow amendments or
>>>>>>> just vote the entire package as is. Only if there is a
majority for that
>>>>>>> will votes on deleting Articles 11 and 13 be allowed. I am
attaching a
>>>>>>> voting list with recommendations on Article 13, so you can
follow the vote.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stream is here:
>>>>>>>
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/website/webstreaming.html?event=20190326-0900…
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What happens if the reform is passed as is:
>>>>>>> The Council will nod this off at a General Council meeting on
9
>>>>>>> April. Then it will be published in the official journal and
Member States
>>>>>>> will have 24 months to transpose the new rules. In this case
we will work
>>>>>>> on national implementations. There is a lot we can to remedy
*some* of the
>>>>>>> effects of Article 13 & open the door to future
litigation. We can also
>>>>>>> widen the gains some of the exceptions provide at least
nationally.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What happen is the European Parliament amends the reform:
>>>>>>> The entire text goes to Council and then the Member States
>>>>>>> governments need to decide if they accept it as is or want to
further amend
>>>>>>> it and negotiate with the EP. In this case we focus on the EP
elections, as
>>>>>>> a move before them would be unlikely.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Very hypothetical:
>>>>>>> If a country, such as Germany for instance, suddenly changes
its
>>>>>>> behaviour on 9 April, it could theoretically still stop the
package. But
>>>>>>> copyright is already agreed upon in Council and put down as
an "A item" for
>>>>>>> the 9 April meeting. A items are considered purely
procedural, get nodded
>>>>>>> off and not even discussed (as agreement and a vote have
already taken
>>>>>>> place). There is only one time, to my knowledge, that such an
A item was
>>>>>>> pulled back. The Software Patents Directive. I think it is
extremely
>>>>>>> unlikely to happen again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks everyone for you help and support.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers from Strasbourg,
>>>>>>> Dimi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Executive Director
>>>>
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