Hi Raul,
If you wait 2 more days, you can read the 10-page report that I prepared
on the Portuguese study.
As you will see, public interiors is not an issue in Portugal, because we
have a broad definition of public space elsewhere in the Portuguese
Copyright Code. The fact that this is a relatively abstract norm (with a
wording very similar to the InfoSoc), only raises interpretation issues
with regards to the purposes. But the fact that the norm doesn't exclude a
priory commercial purposes can only be seen as a positive thing. The rest
of the concepts (e.g. "use", "works") are defined in other norms, so
they
are not vague at all.
Thanks,
Teresa
2016-06-06 15:01 GMT+01:00 Raul Veede <raul.veede(a)gmail.com>om>:
Well, Estonian FoP was today discussed in the
Parliamentary Committee of
Culture, and we're hoping to present the case in the Committee of European
Affairs in close days.
The Portuguese scenario has at least three weaknesses I can identify
(I've written about it in short in a comment on your blog post, and in
length to Teresa Nobre personally; to count quickly, it leaves unclear the
situations with public interiors and several types of works, and prescribes
provisions so vague that every politician would be proud to include such
language in their election program) and if it were adopted in Estonia, we
would actually lose some territory that is currently covered by NC FoP and
by the draft bill I wrote would become also free commercially.
So please excuse me but we're in a bit of a hurry here yet would still be
greatly interested in reasons for going backwards.
Also, my experience shows it is hard to get Communia to respond to
anything. You don't exactly try to communicate with people who comment on
your blog or FB, and your posts have a constant lack of references and
analysis. If you're saying you are recommending the best scenarios without
having any analysis to back up your recommendations yet, it sounds,
unfortunately, believable. Care to disprove my cynicism?
All the best,
Raul
On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Lisette Kalshoven <lk(a)kl.nl> wrote:
Hi Raul,
The supporting documents (with full legal analysis) will be published
when we share the individual scenario’s over the next 3-4 weeks. This is
just us announcing the series. So stay tuned :)
With kind regards
Lisette
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On 06 Jun 2016, at 15:46, Raul Veede <raul.veede(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Your proposal of the Portuguese scenario as a good example for adopting
across Europe made me wondering what might be the reasoning behind that.
In the piece published today you only count the examples but do not offer
any analysis, proof, or legal reasons. Would you be so nice and expand it
beyond pure rhetorics?
All the best
Raul
On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Lisette Kalshoven <lk(a)kl.nl> wrote:
Dear Wikimedians,
Today at Communia we’re launching the Best Case Scenarios for Copyright
<http://www.communia-association.org/bcs-copyright/> series, to
promote great solutions such as user-friendly copyright limitations. They
work in some EU countries and we want to talk about making them (and other
good ones) mandatory for the whole EU. It would be great if you could
promote the message via social media and any other communication with your
partners.
Today we introduce the idea for the campaign and on Wednesday we will
publish the first case. Today’s post may be found here
<http://www.communia-association.org/2016/06/06/bcs-copyright/> and
Communia TT is here
<https://twitter.com/communia_eu/status/739782579952443392>.
Best wishes,
Lisette Kalshoven
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