Well he's quite the wanker, isn't he?
On Tue, 26 Mar 2019, 20:09 Liam Wyatt, <liamwyatt(a)gmail.com> wrote:
And the very weird gloating has begun
https://twitter.com/davidclowery/status/1110513807036727296?s=21
On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 at 20:54, Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
> To look on the bright side, at least this means that we'll win the
> Reiss-Engelhorn Museum v. Wikimedia Foundation lawsuit (due to article 14
> of the directive). As to the rest of it, quite disappointing indeed.
>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 9:10 AM Jan Gerlach <jgerlach(a)wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for sending this over, Mārtiņš!
>>
>> Here's our statement:
>>
https://twitter.com/wikimediapolicy/status/1110572603217862656
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 7:31 AM Mārtiņš Bruņenieks <
>> martinsb(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Detailed voting data available:
>>>
>>> Votes:
>>> 22.whether to accept amendments
>>> 23.approve directive
>>>
>>>
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//NONSGML+PV+2019…
>>>
>>>
>>> Just these votes on Julia Reda's web page:
>>>
https://juliareda.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/copyrightvote.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>> Mārtiņš
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 2:05 PM Jan Gerlach <jgerlach(a)wikimedia.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So close. More work to do towards national implementation. We'll
>>>> have a statement out later today.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your help, everyone!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 4:59 AM Katherine Maher <
>>>> kmaher(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So narrow, that hurts.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 12:56 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <
>>>>> dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry, that was the vote on whether to accept amendments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Directive was approved 348-274.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> D
>>>>>>
>>>>>> На вт, 26.03.2019 г. в 12:53 ч. Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <
>>>>>> dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov(a)gmail.com> написа:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Directive approved
>>>>>>> by 5 votes
>>>>>>> 317 to 312
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> На вт, 26.03.2019 г. в 10:09 ч. Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov
<
>>>>>>> dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov(a)gmail.com> написа:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Today after 12:30 we expect the European Parliament in
>>>>>>>> Strasbourg to vote on the copyright file.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> First there will be a vote on whether to allow amendments
or
>>>>>>>> just vote the entire package as is. Only if there is a
majority for that
>>>>>>>> will votes on deleting Articles 11 and 13 be allowed. I
am attaching a
>>>>>>>> voting list with recommendations on Article 13, so you
can follow the vote.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stream is here:
>>>>>>>>
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/website/webstreaming.html?event=20190326-0900…
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What happens if the reform is passed as is:
>>>>>>>> The Council will nod this off at a General Council
meeting on 9
>>>>>>>> April. Then it will be published in the official journal
and Member States
>>>>>>>> will have 24 months to transpose the new rules. In this
case we will work
>>>>>>>> on national implementations. There is a lot we can to
remedy *some* of the
>>>>>>>> effects of Article 13 & open the door to future
litigation. We can also
>>>>>>>> widen the gains some of the exceptions provide at least
nationally.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What happen is the European Parliament amends the
reform:
>>>>>>>> The entire text goes to Council and then the Member
States
>>>>>>>> governments need to decide if they accept it as is or
want to further amend
>>>>>>>> it and negotiate with the EP. In this case we focus on
the EP elections, as
>>>>>>>> a move before them would be unlikely.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Very hypothetical:
>>>>>>>> If a country, such as Germany for instance, suddenly
changes
>>>>>>>> its behaviour on 9 April, it could theoretically still
stop the package.
>>>>>>>> But copyright is already agreed upon in Council and put
down as an "A item"
>>>>>>>> for the 9 April meeting. A items are considered purely
procedural, get
>>>>>>>> nodded off and not even discussed (as agreement and a
vote have already
>>>>>>>> taken place). There is only one time, to my knowledge,
that such an A item
>>>>>>>> was pulled back. The Software Patents Directive. I think
it is extremely
>>>>>>>> unlikely to happen again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks everyone for you help and support.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers from Strasbourg,
>>>>>>>> Dimi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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