https://boingboing.net/2019/03/26/jfc-fml-jfc.html
On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 at 21:47, Owen Blacker owen@openrightsgroup.org wrote:
Touché. "Digital skeptic" indeed 🙄
On Tue, 26 Mar 2019, 20:45 Jan Gerlach, jgerlach@wikimedia.org wrote:
Friends, we may have our disagreements with this songwriter from the 1990s, but let's stay polite!
On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 1:40 PM Owen Blacker owen@openrightsgroup.org wrote:
Well he's quite the wanker, isn't he?
On Tue, 26 Mar 2019, 20:09 Liam Wyatt, liamwyatt@gmail.com wrote:
And the very weird gloating has begun https://twitter.com/davidclowery/status/1110513807036727296?s=21
On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 at 20:54, Ryan Kaldari rkaldari@wikimedia.org wrote:
To look on the bright side, at least this means that we'll win the Reiss-Engelhorn Museum v. Wikimedia Foundation lawsuit (due to article 14 of the directive). As to the rest of it, quite disappointing indeed.
On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 9:10 AM Jan Gerlach jgerlach@wikimedia.org wrote:
Thanks for sending this over, Mārtiņš!
Here's our statement: https://twitter.com/wikimediapolicy/status/1110572603217862656
On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 7:31 AM Mārtiņš Bruņenieks < martinsb@gmail.com> wrote:
> Detailed voting data available: > > Votes: > 22.whether to accept amendments > 23.approve directive > > http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//NONSGML+PV+20190... > > > Just these votes on Julia Reda's web page: > https://juliareda.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/copyrightvote.pdf > > > Mārtiņš > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 2:05 PM Jan Gerlach jgerlach@wikimedia.org > wrote: > >> So close. More work to do towards national implementation. We'll >> have a statement out later today. >> >> Thanks for your help, everyone! >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 4:59 AM Katherine Maher < >> kmaher@wikimedia.org> wrote: >> >>> So narrow, that hurts. >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 12:56 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov < >>> dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Sorry, that was the vote on whether to accept amendments. >>>> >>>> The Directive was approved 348-274. >>>> >>>> D >>>> >>>> На вт, 26.03.2019 г. в 12:53 ч. Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov < >>>> dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com> написа: >>>> >>>>> Directive approved >>>>> by 5 votes >>>>> 317 to 312 >>>>> >>>>> На вт, 26.03.2019 г. в 10:09 ч. Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov < >>>>> dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com> написа: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>> >>>>>> Today after 12:30 we expect the European Parliament in >>>>>> Strasbourg to vote on the copyright file. >>>>>> >>>>>> First there will be a vote on whether to allow amendments or >>>>>> just vote the entire package as is. Only if there is a majority for that >>>>>> will votes on deleting Articles 11 and 13 be allowed. I am attaching a >>>>>> voting list with recommendations on Article 13, so you can follow the vote. >>>>>> >>>>>> Stream is here: >>>>>> http://www.europarl.europa.eu/website/webstreaming.html?event=20190326-0900-... >>>>>> >>>>>> What happens if the reform is passed as is: >>>>>> The Council will nod this off at a General Council meeting on 9 >>>>>> April. Then it will be published in the official journal and Member States >>>>>> will have 24 months to transpose the new rules. In this case we will work >>>>>> on national implementations. There is a lot we can to remedy *some* of the >>>>>> effects of Article 13 & open the door to future litigation. We can also >>>>>> widen the gains some of the exceptions provide at least nationally. >>>>>> >>>>>> What happen is the European Parliament amends the reform: >>>>>> The entire text goes to Council and then the Member States >>>>>> governments need to decide if they accept it as is or want to further amend >>>>>> it and negotiate with the EP. In this case we focus on the EP elections, as >>>>>> a move before them would be unlikely. >>>>>> >>>>>> Very hypothetical: >>>>>> If a country, such as Germany for instance, suddenly changes >>>>>> its behaviour on 9 April, it could theoretically still stop the package. >>>>>> But copyright is already agreed upon in Council and put down as an "A item" >>>>>> for the 9 April meeting. A items are considered purely procedural, get >>>>>> nodded off and not even discussed (as agreement and a vote have already >>>>>> taken place). There is only one time, to my knowledge, that such an A item >>>>>> was pulled back. The Software Patents Directive. I think it is extremely >>>>>> unlikely to happen again. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks everyone for you help and support. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers from Strasbourg, >>>>>> Dimi >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Publicpolicy mailing list >>>> Publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >>>> >>> -- >>> >>> Katherine Maher (she/her) >>> >>> Executive Director >>> >>> Wikimedia Foundation https://wikimediafoundation.org/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Publicpolicy mailing list >>> Publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Publicpolicy mailing list >> Publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >> > _______________________________________________ > Publicpolicy mailing list > Publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy > _______________________________________________ Publicpolicy mailing list Publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy
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