Hi all,
Of course, when it comes to user data protection, we're lightyears ahead of
a number of for-profit, commercial enterprises nedless to be mentioned
here. And yes, the new proposed changes in the parliament are going in the
right direction for us, so there's no need to panic.
What we need to take away from this is that we must keep our eyes open in
the future for risky law proposals or ammendments (not just in the EU).
The issue with Wiki*edia is that we're neither a company, nor a citizen nor
a traditional community, so we're very easily overlooked in the lawmaking
process. Also, our problems and issues are so specific and unique that they
are hardly ever fully addressed by traditional NGOs or anybody else for
that matter. We're the odd kid on the block.
An while it is very easy to raise valid concerns at an early stage and have
them reviewed by the decision-makers, at a later stage this becomes
increasingly difficult. We must learn to monitor legislation proposals
concerning us and to request legal analyses early on if we see something
worrisome. After all better safe than sorry, right?
Dimi
2013/1/11 Jan Engelmann <jan.engelmann(a)wikimedia.de>
Hi James and Amgine,
nobody denies that Wikimedia already applies privacy by design and by
default, as intended by the Commission. But we should read the draft
through European lenses and that means: the intention to apply a new gold
standard of privacy matters to all data controllers. For us as consumers
this is very good news. Regarding the necessities of an open platform, we
should accurately analyze if there are any requirements we can't comply
with.
You will find the Art. 17.2 proposed by the EU commission on page 96 (left
column)
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/2009_2014/documents/libe/pr/922/9223…
It says:
"Where the controller ... has made the personal data public, it shall take
all reasonable steps, including technical measures, in relation to data for
the publication of which the controller is responsible, to inform third
parties which are processing such data, that a data subject requests them
to erase any links to, or copy or replication of that personal data. Where
the controller has authorised a third party publication of personal data,
the controller shall be considered responsible for that publication."
Many law experts (IANAL) went nuts when they read this particular
paragraph. The new Art. 2a (same page, right column) proposed by the
rapporteur brings freedom of expression into play. So this was the basic
message I wanted to give: the proposal is getting better, but still has to
go through several stages of the drafting process. The Parliament is bound
to find a common position until end of february.
Regards, Jan
2013/1/11 Amgine <amgine(a)wikimedians.ca>
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On 11/01/13 10:06 AM, Jan Engelmann wrote:
No, our concerns weren't paranoid at all.
Have you even read the
initial Draft Poposal? OK, let's shift the scenario from a
WP-article about a public figure to personal data embedded in user
pages or discussion pages. Then any erasure based on data
protection claims would affect the consistency of the whole
project. Aren't we worried about authors' retention all the time?
Here is another reason why. And how do you judge the surveillence
program deriving from Art 17.2? Do you think a volunteer community
which is already concerned with maaany copyright and personality
rights issues could handle that? And please, AGF. J
I believe it has already been mentioned: we already do this stuff. I
also mentioned I am not as familiar as I should be with the proposal,
but most likely the communities can (and will, if the proposal is
implemented) develop methods to comply with the surveillance program.
Again, we already do.
I wonder more if the proposal is balanced and implementable, if
compliance is measurable, and what incentives and disincentives it
provides. On the face of it, the synopses suggest it should be
supported by the WMF though it does not go as far as our communities
already do.
Amgine
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