Hey Jonas,
On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 11:26 AM, Jonas Kress jonas.kress@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hey,
I am interested in improving the patrolling workflow for mobile users of Wikidata and I wonder if you only plan to refactor[1] the code or if you also will improve the user experience?
This project is technical improvements only, so we are not expecting workflow or feature changes on it.
That said, Audiences has a top level outcome (Outcome 3: Mobile Contributing [1]) as I mentioned and the Readers Web team will be indeed responsible for the related output "Output 3.1: Contribution tools on mobile web via an existing mediawiki skin".
As far as I know at this point in time, the annual plan was just finalized. I think the *outputs* will go to the planning and definition phase soon, in preparation for next fiscal year. I think improving the patrolling workflow for mobile web users could neatly fit under such Output, and would be a great collaboration. I'll connect you with our PM so that we can talk about specifics and see how we could help each other.
[1]: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Annual_Plan/2018-2019/A...
Thanks, Jonas
[1] https://dzone.com/articles/what-refactoring-and-what-it-0
2018-04-04 11:05 GMT+02:00 Derk-Jan Hartman d.j.hartman+wmf_ml@gmail.com :
I really like all of these goals, but I have to say that many of them seem to be a recurring theme (which to me is understandable, but maybe not to others). I pose to you an additional challenge.. Don't do this just to mobilefrontend/minervaneue. Do it to a component of core/an extension as well (i'd pick something small, oft used, but not the best maintained).
- This will help expose you to any challenges that other parts of the
ecosystem have in following your direction. 2. It will show the way. Examples are good teaching methods. 3. A component that needs it, but might otherwise not get it, will get some TLC 4. It will close the mobile/desktop gap for whatever component you pick 5. it will close the mobile/desktop gap in general.
Because I think that if you don't expand on your target codebase, the risk will be that you remain more isolated than you should be.
DJ
On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 7:40 PM, Joaquin Oltra Hernandez jhernandez@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi!
Over the next fiscal year, the Wikimedia Foundation Readers Web team
will be
making technical improvements to the mobile web codebases
(MobileFrontend
and MinervaNeue).
The project, which we’re calling ‘Invest in the MobileFrontend &
MinervaNeue
frontend architecture’, contained in Output 2.7 of the Platform
Evolution
CDP [1], is currently in its specification and planning stages. The
outcomes
of the project are:
- Improve developer experience (on-boarding, maintenance, development)
- Reduce technical debt and make production improvements
- Separate presentation and logic
- Make Minerva and MobileFrontend better citizens of the MediaWiki
ecosystem
MobileFrontend & MinervaNeue, which power the Wikimedia mobile sites,
make
heavy use of client-side UIs with templates, CSS and JavaScript. Over
the
past eight years of developing a mobile-first wiki experience we have
learnt
and frontend technology has evolved. We will improve and modernize the
code
bases to continue supporting our mobile web users in the future. Please
see
Outcomes 1, 2 and 3 in the wiki page for more detail.
Minerva will become an independent skin without a dependency on MobileFrontend, and vice versa. Please see Outcome 4 in the wiki page
for
more detail.
Please visit the project page on MediaWiki.org to learn more about the outcomes and outputs, and share your questions. [2]
N.B. This project is distinct from “Output 3.1: Contribution tools on
mobile
web via an existing mediawiki skin” [3], described in the FY 2018-2019
plan.
Joaquin Oltra Hernandez Senior Software Engineer, Readers Web
Plan:FY18-19/2/7
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Annual_Plan/2018-2019/Audiences#Outcome_3:_Mobile_Contributing
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