Hey,

I am interested in improving the patrolling workflow for mobile users of
Wikidata and I wonder if you only plan to refactor[1] the code or if you
also will improve the user experience?

Thanks,
Jonas

[1] https://dzone.com/articles/what-refactoring-and-what-it-0

2018-04-04 11:05 GMT+02:00 Derk-Jan Hartman <d.j.hartman+wmf_ml@gmail.com>:

> I really like all of these goals, but I have to say that many of them
> seem to be a recurring theme (which to me is understandable, but maybe
> not to others). I pose to you an additional challenge.. Don't do this
> just to mobilefrontend/minervaneue. Do it to a component of core/an
> extension as well (i'd pick something small, oft used, but not the
> best maintained).
>
> 1. This will help expose you to any challenges that other parts of the
> ecosystem have in following your direction.
> 2. It will show the way. Examples are good teaching methods.
> 3. A component that needs it, but might otherwise not get it, will get
> some TLC
> 4. It will close the mobile/desktop gap for whatever component you pick
> 5. it will close the mobile/desktop gap in general.
>
> Because I think that if you don't expand on your target codebase, the
> risk will be that you remain more isolated than you should be.
>
> DJ
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 7:40 PM, Joaquin Oltra Hernandez
> <jhernandez@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > Over the next fiscal year, the Wikimedia Foundation Readers Web team
> will be
> > making technical improvements to the mobile web codebases (MobileFrontend
> > and MinervaNeue).
> >
> > The project, which we’re calling ‘Invest in the MobileFrontend &
> MinervaNeue
> > frontend architecture’, contained in Output 2.7 of the Platform Evolution
> > CDP [1], is currently in its specification and planning stages. The
> outcomes
> > of the project are:
> >
> > 1. Improve developer experience (on-boarding, maintenance, development)
> > 2. Reduce technical debt and make production improvements
> > 3. Separate presentation and logic
> > 4. Make Minerva and MobileFrontend better citizens of the MediaWiki
> > ecosystem
> >
> > MobileFrontend & MinervaNeue, which power the Wikimedia mobile sites,
> make
> > heavy use of client-side UIs with templates, CSS and JavaScript. Over the
> > past eight years of developing a mobile-first wiki experience we have
> learnt
> > and frontend technology has evolved. We will improve and modernize the
> code
> > bases to continue supporting our mobile web users in the future. Please
> see
> > Outcomes 1, 2 and 3 in the wiki page for more detail.
> >
> > Minerva will become an independent skin without a dependency on
> > MobileFrontend, and vice versa. Please see Outcome 4 in the wiki page for
> > more detail.
> >
> > Please visit the project page on MediaWiki.org to learn more about the
> > outcomes and outputs, and share your questions. [2]
> >
> > N.B. This project is distinct from “Output 3.1: Contribution tools on
> mobile
> > web via an existing mediawiki skin” [3], described in the FY 2018-2019
> plan.
> >
> > _____________________
> > Joaquin Oltra Hernandez
> > Senior Software Engineer, Readers Web
> >
> > [1]:
> > https://wikifarm.wmflabs.org/platformevolution/index.php/
> Plan:FY18-19/2/7
> > [2]:
> > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Projects/
> Invest_in_the_MobileFrontend_%26_MinervaNeue_frontend_architecture
> > [3]:
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_
> Annual_Plan/2018-2019/Audiences#Outcome_3:_Mobile_Contributing
> >
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