Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Wikitech-l] Announcing project ‘Invest in the MobileFrontend & MinervaNeue frontend architecture’ - Mobile-l

4 Apr 2018

Hey Jonas,

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 11:26 AM, Jonas Kress &lt;jonas.kress(a)wikimedia.de&gt;
wrote:

...
  Hey,

 I am interested in improving the patrolling workflow for mobile users of
 Wikidata and I wonder if you only plan to refactor[1] the code or if you
 also will improve the user experience?

This project is technical improvements only, so we are not expecting
workflow or feature changes on it.

That said, Audiences has a top level outcome (Outcome 3: Mobile
Contributing [1]) as I mentioned and the Readers Web team will be indeed
responsible for the related output "Output 3.1: Contribution tools on
mobile web via an existing mediawiki skin".

As far as I know at this point in time, the annual plan was just finalized.
I think the *outputs* will go to the planning and definition phase soon, in
preparation for next fiscal year. I think improving the patrolling workflow
for mobile web users could neatly fit under such Output, and would be a
great collaboration. I'll connect you with our PM so that we can talk about
specifics and see how we could help each other.

[1]:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Annual_Plan/2018-2019/…

...

 Thanks,
 Jonas

 [1] https://dzone.com/articles/what-refactoring-and-what-it-0

 2018-04-04 11:05 GMT+02:00 Derk-Jan Hartman &lt;d.j.hartman+wmf_ml(a)gmail.com&gt;
 :

  I really like all of these goals, but I have to
say that many of them
 seem to be a recurring theme (which to me is understandable, but maybe
 not to others). I pose to you an additional challenge.. Don't do this
 just to mobilefrontend/minervaneue. Do it to a component of core/an
 extension as well (i'd pick something small, oft used, but not the
 best maintained).

 1. This will help expose you to any challenges that other parts of the
 ecosystem have in following your direction.
 2. It will show the way. Examples are good teaching methods.
 3. A component that needs it, but might otherwise not get it, will get
 some TLC
 4. It will close the mobile/desktop gap for whatever component you pick
 5. it will close the mobile/desktop gap in general.

 Because I think that if you don't expand on your target codebase, the
 risk will be that you remain more isolated than you should be.

 DJ

 On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 7:40 PM, Joaquin Oltra Hernandez
 &lt;jhernandez(a)wikimedia.org&gt; wrote:
  Hi!

 Over the next fiscal year, the Wikimedia Foundation Readers Web team  will be
 > making technical improvements to the mobile web codebases  (MobileFrontend
   and
MinervaNeue).

 The project, which we’re calling ‘Invest in the MobileFrontend &  MinervaNeue
 > frontend architecture’, contained in Output 2.7 of the Platform  Evolution
   CDP [1],
is currently in its specification and planning stages. The  outcomes
  of the project are:

 1. Improve developer experience (on-boarding, maintenance, development)
 2. Reduce technical debt and make production improvements
 3. Separate presentation and logic
 4. Make Minerva and MobileFrontend better citizens of the MediaWiki
 ecosystem

 MobileFrontend & MinervaNeue, which power the Wikimedia mobile sites,  make
 > heavy use of client-side UIs with templates, CSS and JavaScript. Over  the
   past
eight years of developing a mobile-first wiki experience we have  learnt
  and frontend technology has evolved. We will
improve and modernize the  code
  bases to continue supporting our mobile web users
in the future. Please  see
 > Outcomes 1, 2 and 3 in the wiki page for more detail.
 >
 > Minerva will become an independent skin without a dependency on
 > MobileFrontend, and vice versa. Please see Outcome 4 in the wiki page  for
   more
detail.

 Please visit the project page on MediaWiki.org to learn more about the
 outcomes and outputs, and share your questions. [2]

 N.B. This project is distinct from “Output 3.1: Contribution tools on  mobile
  web via an existing mediawiki skin” [3],
described in the FY 2018-2019  plan.

 _____________________
 Joaquin Oltra Hernandez
 Senior Software Engineer, Readers Web

 [1]:
 https://wikifarm.wmflabs.org/platformevolution/index.php/  Plan:FY18-19/2/7
  [2]:
 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Projects/ 
Invest_in_the_MobileFrontend_%26_MinervaNeue_frontend_architecture
  [3]:
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_ 
Annual_Plan/2018-2019/Audiences#Outcome_3:_Mobile_Contributing

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