Hello,
Two updates: - We have been upgrading mailing lists to mailman3, now more than 1/4th of mailing lists have been migrated, more follow today and next week. Some actions needed (see below) - We created a new mailing list called listadmins-announce and we are turning listadmins to a discussion mailing list. So If you don't wish to be involved in mailing list administration discussions, you can unsubscribe from listadmins [1] [2]. But being a member of listadmins-announce is not optional (you can unsubscribe, but you'll be automatically added back in the next update).
*More on upgrade to mm3:* Upgrading +700 mailing lists and more than 17 years of digital archive is... challenging and Mailman3, while being much better than mailman2, is not perfect.
One known issue is that the upgrade script sometimes truncates the info field. We have made changes and reported it to upstream to mitigate it but some mailing lists might not be easily fixable (python version incompatibilities, etc.). So If your mailing list has been upgraded, please check and fix that if it happens. Sorry for any inconvenience.
Private mailing lists won't be upgraded for now (possibly later next week or the week after).
I recommend creating a central account [3] so you can have better control over mailing lists you are a member of or you are an admin.
Please report any issues to us.
Happy emailing
[1] https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/listadmins.lists.wikimedia.org/ [2] https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/listadmins-announce.lists.wikime... [3] https://lists.wikimedia.org/accounts/signup/
Amir, I just wanted to send some love your way for working on this and for keeping us all continuously updated! It is really much appreciated!
Thanks,
John - - - - John Andersson Executive Director Wikimedia Sverige
Phone: +46(0)73-3965189 Email: john.andersson@wikimedia.se Visiting address: Goto10, Hammarby Kaj 10D, 120 32 Stockholm
Den tors 6 maj 2021 kl 18:33 skrev Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com:
Hello,
Two updates:
- We have been upgrading mailing lists to mailman3, now more than 1/4th
of mailing lists have been migrated, more follow today and next week. Some actions needed (see below)
- We created a new mailing list called listadmins-announce and we are
turning listadmins to a discussion mailing list. So If you don't wish to be involved in mailing list administration discussions, you can unsubscribe from listadmins [1] [2]. But being a member of listadmins-announce is not optional (you can unsubscribe, but you'll be automatically added back in the next update).
*More on upgrade to mm3:* Upgrading +700 mailing lists and more than 17 years of digital archive is... challenging and Mailman3, while being much better than mailman2, is not perfect.
One known issue is that the upgrade script sometimes truncates the info field. We have made changes and reported it to upstream to mitigate it but some mailing lists might not be easily fixable (python version incompatibilities, etc.). So If your mailing list has been upgraded, please check and fix that if it happens. Sorry for any inconvenience.
Private mailing lists won't be upgraded for now (possibly later next week or the week after).
I recommend creating a central account [3] so you can have better control over mailing lists you are a member of or you are an admin.
Please report any issues to us.
Happy emailing
[1] https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/listadmins.lists.wikimedia.org/ [2] https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/listadmins-announce.lists.wikime... [3] https://lists.wikimedia.org/accounts/signup/
-- Amir (he/him)
Listadmins mailing list -- listadmins@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to listadmins-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
By sending a message to this list, you email all admins of all lists. To request technical changes for a specific list, instead create a task in Phabricator. See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists
Amir,
You're a star!
Thanks! Dimi
Le jeu. 6 mai 2021 à 19:38, John Andersson john.andersson@wikimedia.se a écrit :
Amir, I just wanted to send some love your way for working on this and for keeping us all continuously updated! It is really much appreciated!
Thanks,
John
John Andersson Executive Director Wikimedia Sverige
Phone: +46(0)73-3965189 Email: john.andersson@wikimedia.se Visiting address: Goto10, Hammarby Kaj 10D, 120 32 Stockholm
Den tors 6 maj 2021 kl 18:33 skrev Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com:
Hello,
Two updates:
- We have been upgrading mailing lists to mailman3, now more than 1/4th
of mailing lists have been migrated, more follow today and next week. Some actions needed (see below)
- We created a new mailing list called listadmins-announce and we are
turning listadmins to a discussion mailing list. So If you don't wish to be involved in mailing list administration discussions, you can unsubscribe from listadmins [1] [2]. But being a member of listadmins-announce is not optional (you can unsubscribe, but you'll be automatically added back in the next update).
*More on upgrade to mm3:* Upgrading +700 mailing lists and more than 17 years of digital archive is... challenging and Mailman3, while being much better than mailman2, is not perfect.
One known issue is that the upgrade script sometimes truncates the info field. We have made changes and reported it to upstream to mitigate it but some mailing lists might not be easily fixable (python version incompatibilities, etc.). So If your mailing list has been upgraded, please check and fix that if it happens. Sorry for any inconvenience.
Private mailing lists won't be upgraded for now (possibly later next week or the week after).
I recommend creating a central account [3] so you can have better control over mailing lists you are a member of or you are an admin.
Please report any issues to us.
Happy emailing
[1] https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/listadmins.lists.wikimedia.org/ [2] https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/listadmins-announce.lists.wikime... [3] https://lists.wikimedia.org/accounts/signup/
-- Amir (he/him)
Listadmins mailing list -- listadmins@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to listadmins-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
By sending a message to this list, you email all admins of all lists. To request technical changes for a specific list, instead create a task in Phabricator. See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists
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Much agreed -- this is largely thankless work but clearly important and I very much appreciate that you have continued to pull this project along!
Best, Isaac
On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 12:54 PM Dimi Dimitrov dimi@wikimedia.be wrote:
Amir,
You're a star!
Thanks! Dimi
Le jeu. 6 mai 2021 à 19:38, John Andersson john.andersson@wikimedia.se a écrit :
Amir, I just wanted to send some love your way for working on this and for keeping us all continuously updated! It is really much appreciated!
Thanks,
John
John Andersson Executive Director Wikimedia Sverige
Phone: +46(0)73-3965189 Email: john.andersson@wikimedia.se Visiting address: Goto10, Hammarby Kaj 10D, 120 32 Stockholm
Den tors 6 maj 2021 kl 18:33 skrev Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com:
Hello,
Two updates:
- We have been upgrading mailing lists to mailman3, now more than 1/4th
of mailing lists have been migrated, more follow today and next week. Some actions needed (see below)
- We created a new mailing list called listadmins-announce and we are
turning listadmins to a discussion mailing list. So If you don't wish to be involved in mailing list administration discussions, you can unsubscribe from listadmins [1] [2]. But being a member of listadmins-announce is not optional (you can unsubscribe, but you'll be automatically added back in the next update).
*More on upgrade to mm3:* Upgrading +700 mailing lists and more than 17 years of digital archive is... challenging and Mailman3, while being much better than mailman2, is not perfect.
One known issue is that the upgrade script sometimes truncates the info field. We have made changes and reported it to upstream to mitigate it but some mailing lists might not be easily fixable (python version incompatibilities, etc.). So If your mailing list has been upgraded, please check and fix that if it happens. Sorry for any inconvenience.
Private mailing lists won't be upgraded for now (possibly later next week or the week after).
I recommend creating a central account [3] so you can have better control over mailing lists you are a member of or you are an admin.
Please report any issues to us.
Happy emailing
[1] https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/listadmins.lists.wikimedia.org/ [2] https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/listadmins-announce.lists.wikime... [3] https://lists.wikimedia.org/accounts/signup/
-- Amir (he/him)
Listadmins mailing list -- listadmins@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to listadmins-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
By sending a message to this list, you email all admins of all lists. To request technical changes for a specific list, instead create a task in Phabricator. See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists
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شكرا امير
Mohammed BACHOUNDA leader WIKIDZ Algeria
Le jeu. 6 mai 2021 à 17:54, Dimi Dimitrov dimi@wikimedia.be a écrit :
Amir,
You're a star!
Thanks! Dimi
Le jeu. 6 mai 2021 à 19:38, John Andersson john.andersson@wikimedia.se a écrit :
Amir, I just wanted to send some love your way for working on this and for keeping us all continuously updated! It is really much appreciated!
Thanks,
John
John Andersson Executive Director Wikimedia Sverige
Phone: +46(0)73-3965189 Email: john.andersson@wikimedia.se Visiting address: Goto10, Hammarby Kaj 10D, 120 32 Stockholm
Den tors 6 maj 2021 kl 18:33 skrev Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com:
Hello,
Two updates:
- We have been upgrading mailing lists to mailman3, now more than 1/4th
of mailing lists have been migrated, more follow today and next week. Some actions needed (see below)
- We created a new mailing list called listadmins-announce and we are
turning listadmins to a discussion mailing list. So If you don't wish to be involved in mailing list administration discussions, you can unsubscribe from listadmins [1] [2]. But being a member of listadmins-announce is not optional (you can unsubscribe, but you'll be automatically added back in the next update).
*More on upgrade to mm3:* Upgrading +700 mailing lists and more than 17 years of digital archive is... challenging and Mailman3, while being much better than mailman2, is not perfect.
One known issue is that the upgrade script sometimes truncates the info field. We have made changes and reported it to upstream to mitigate it but some mailing lists might not be easily fixable (python version incompatibilities, etc.). So If your mailing list has been upgraded, please check and fix that if it happens. Sorry for any inconvenience.
Private mailing lists won't be upgraded for now (possibly later next week or the week after).
I recommend creating a central account [3] so you can have better control over mailing lists you are a member of or you are an admin.
Please report any issues to us.
Happy emailing
[1] https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/listadmins.lists.wikimedia.org/ [2] https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/listadmins-announce.lists.wikime... [3] https://lists.wikimedia.org/accounts/signup/
-- Amir (he/him)
Listadmins mailing list -- listadmins@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to listadmins-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
By sending a message to this list, you email all admins of all lists. To request technical changes for a specific list, instead create a task in Phabricator. See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists
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This is a huge improvement! Thank you very much for all the work, Amir and Legoktm!
There is one thing I'd like to ask about, however. In the old mailman, the archive would only list the months that had mails in them, while the new one lists all months regardless. This is very noticeable in a list like WikiNN-l https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikinn-l@lists.wikimedia.org/, which has had a whooping total of three mails since it was created in 2010 (yeah, I know ...). I don't suppose there is some sort of configuration switch that can fix that?
fre. 7. mai 2021 kl. 10:04 skrev Mohammed Bachounda bachounda@gmail.com:
شكرا امير
Mohammed BACHOUNDA leader WIKIDZ Algeria
Le jeu. 6 mai 2021 à 17:54, Dimi Dimitrov dimi@wikimedia.be a écrit :
Amir,
You're a star!
Thanks! Dimi
Le jeu. 6 mai 2021 à 19:38, John Andersson john.andersson@wikimedia.se a écrit :
Amir, I just wanted to send some love your way for working on this and for keeping us all continuously updated! It is really much appreciated!
Thanks,
John
John Andersson Executive Director Wikimedia Sverige
Phone: +46(0)73-3965189 Email: john.andersson@wikimedia.se Visiting address: Goto10, Hammarby Kaj 10D, 120 32 Stockholm
Den tors 6 maj 2021 kl 18:33 skrev Amir Sarabadani <ladsgroup@gmail.com
:
Hello,
Two updates:
- We have been upgrading mailing lists to mailman3, now more than
1/4th of mailing lists have been migrated, more follow today and next week. Some actions needed (see below)
- We created a new mailing list called listadmins-announce and we are
turning listadmins to a discussion mailing list. So If you don't wish to be involved in mailing list administration discussions, you can unsubscribe from listadmins [1] [2]. But being a member of listadmins-announce is not optional (you can unsubscribe, but you'll be automatically added back in the next update).
*More on upgrade to mm3:* Upgrading +700 mailing lists and more than 17 years of digital archive is... challenging and Mailman3, while being much better than mailman2, is not perfect.
One known issue is that the upgrade script sometimes truncates the info field. We have made changes and reported it to upstream to mitigate it but some mailing lists might not be easily fixable (python version incompatibilities, etc.). So If your mailing list has been upgraded, please check and fix that if it happens. Sorry for any inconvenience.
Private mailing lists won't be upgraded for now (possibly later next week or the week after).
I recommend creating a central account [3] so you can have better control over mailing lists you are a member of or you are an admin.
Please report any issues to us.
Happy emailing
[1] https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/listadmins.lists.wikimedia.org/ [2] https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/listadmins-announce.lists.wikime... [3] https://lists.wikimedia.org/accounts/signup/
-- Amir (he/him)
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Yeah excellent work with all this Amir!
Seddon (he/him they/them)
*Software Engineer*
*Product, Wikimedia Foundation*
On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 4:39 PM Jon Harald Søby jhsoby@wikimedia.no wrote:
This is a huge improvement! Thank you very much for all the work, Amir and Legoktm!
There is one thing I'd like to ask about, however. In the old mailman, the archive would only list the months that had mails in them, while the new one lists all months regardless. This is very noticeable in a list like WikiNN-l https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikinn-l@lists.wikimedia.org/, which has had a whooping total of three mails since it was created in 2010 (yeah, I know ...). I don't suppose there is some sort of configuration switch that can fix that?
fre. 7. mai 2021 kl. 10:04 skrev Mohammed Bachounda bachounda@gmail.com:
شكرا امير
Mohammed BACHOUNDA leader WIKIDZ Algeria
Le jeu. 6 mai 2021 à 17:54, Dimi Dimitrov dimi@wikimedia.be a écrit :
Amir,
You're a star!
Thanks! Dimi
Le jeu. 6 mai 2021 à 19:38, John Andersson john.andersson@wikimedia.se a écrit :
Amir, I just wanted to send some love your way for working on this and for keeping us all continuously updated! It is really much appreciated!
Thanks,
John
John Andersson Executive Director Wikimedia Sverige
Phone: +46(0)73-3965189 Email: john.andersson@wikimedia.se Visiting address: Goto10, Hammarby Kaj 10D, 120 32 Stockholm
Den tors 6 maj 2021 kl 18:33 skrev Amir Sarabadani <ladsgroup@gmail.com
:
Hello,
Two updates:
- We have been upgrading mailing lists to mailman3, now more than
1/4th of mailing lists have been migrated, more follow today and next week. Some actions needed (see below)
- We created a new mailing list called listadmins-announce and we are
turning listadmins to a discussion mailing list. So If you don't wish to be involved in mailing list administration discussions, you can unsubscribe from listadmins [1] [2]. But being a member of listadmins-announce is not optional (you can unsubscribe, but you'll be automatically added back in the next update).
*More on upgrade to mm3:* Upgrading +700 mailing lists and more than 17 years of digital archive is... challenging and Mailman3, while being much better than mailman2, is not perfect.
One known issue is that the upgrade script sometimes truncates the info field. We have made changes and reported it to upstream to mitigate it but some mailing lists might not be easily fixable (python version incompatibilities, etc.). So If your mailing list has been upgraded, please check and fix that if it happens. Sorry for any inconvenience.
Private mailing lists won't be upgraded for now (possibly later next week or the week after).
I recommend creating a central account [3] so you can have better control over mailing lists you are a member of or you are an admin.
Please report any issues to us.
Happy emailing
[1] https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/listadmins.lists.wikimedia.org/ [2] https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/listadmins-announce.lists.wikime... [3] https://lists.wikimedia.org/accounts/signup/
-- Amir (he/him)
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-- *Jon Harald Søby* Prosjektleder / Prosjektleiar / Prošeaktajođiheaddji / Project Manager Wikimedia Norge / Wikimedia Noreg / Wikimedia Norga
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Hi,
On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 5:39 PM Jon Harald Søby jhsoby@wikimedia.no wrote:
This is a huge improvement! Thank you very much for all the work, Amir and Legoktm!
There is one thing I'd like to ask about, however. In the old mailman, the archive would only list the months that had mails in them, while the new one lists all months regardless. This is very noticeable in a list like WikiNN-l https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikinn-l@lists.wikimedia.org/, which has had a whooping total of three mails since it was created in 2010 (yeah, I know ...). I don't suppose there is some sort of configuration switch that can fix that?
Yeah, that's not super great but would /latest help? https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikinn-l@lists.wikimedia.org/lat...
I will check if we can do something about it upstream or config. Please file a bug!
fre. 7. mai 2021 kl. 10:04 skrev Mohammed Bachounda bachounda@gmail.com:
شكرا امير
Mohammed BACHOUNDA leader WIKIDZ Algeria
Le jeu. 6 mai 2021 à 17:54, Dimi Dimitrov dimi@wikimedia.be a écrit :
Amir,
You're a star!
Thanks! Dimi
Le jeu. 6 mai 2021 à 19:38, John Andersson john.andersson@wikimedia.se a écrit :
Amir, I just wanted to send some love your way for working on this and for keeping us all continuously updated! It is really much appreciated!
Thanks,
John
John Andersson Executive Director Wikimedia Sverige
Phone: +46(0)73-3965189 Email: john.andersson@wikimedia.se Visiting address: Goto10, Hammarby Kaj 10D, 120 32 Stockholm
Den tors 6 maj 2021 kl 18:33 skrev Amir Sarabadani <ladsgroup@gmail.com
:
Hello,
Two updates:
- We have been upgrading mailing lists to mailman3, now more than
1/4th of mailing lists have been migrated, more follow today and next week. Some actions needed (see below)
- We created a new mailing list called listadmins-announce and we are
turning listadmins to a discussion mailing list. So If you don't wish to be involved in mailing list administration discussions, you can unsubscribe from listadmins [1] [2]. But being a member of listadmins-announce is not optional (you can unsubscribe, but you'll be automatically added back in the next update).
*More on upgrade to mm3:* Upgrading +700 mailing lists and more than 17 years of digital archive is... challenging and Mailman3, while being much better than mailman2, is not perfect.
One known issue is that the upgrade script sometimes truncates the info field. We have made changes and reported it to upstream to mitigate it but some mailing lists might not be easily fixable (python version incompatibilities, etc.). So If your mailing list has been upgraded, please check and fix that if it happens. Sorry for any inconvenience.
Private mailing lists won't be upgraded for now (possibly later next week or the week after).
I recommend creating a central account [3] so you can have better control over mailing lists you are a member of or you are an admin.
Please report any issues to us.
Happy emailing
[1] https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/listadmins.lists.wikimedia.org/ [2] https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/listadmins-announce.lists.wikime... [3] https://lists.wikimedia.org/accounts/signup/
-- Amir (he/him)
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-- *Jon Harald Søby* Prosjektleder / Prosjektleiar / Prošeaktajođiheaddji / Project Manager Wikimedia Norge / Wikimedia Noreg / Wikimedia Norga
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Hi,
On 5/7/21 9:02 AM, Amir Sarabadani wrote:
I will check if we can do something about it upstream or config. Please file a bug!
I want to add on to this, if you find the UI confusing or something isn't working exactly as you expect, file bugs! If you're not comfortable with Phabricator, send us an email and we can file it for you.
So far the Mailman3 developers have been pretty receptive to our requests for changes, usually implementing them quickly when they're straightforward.
-- Kunal
Done! :-) https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T282341
fre. 7. mai 2021 kl. 18:03 skrev Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com:
Hi,
On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 5:39 PM Jon Harald Søby jhsoby@wikimedia.no wrote:
This is a huge improvement! Thank you very much for all the work, Amir and Legoktm!
There is one thing I'd like to ask about, however. In the old mailman, the archive would only list the months that had mails in them, while the new one lists all months regardless. This is very noticeable in a list like WikiNN-l https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikinn-l@lists.wikimedia.org/, which has had a whooping total of three mails since it was created in 2010 (yeah, I know ...). I don't suppose there is some sort of configuration switch that can fix that?
Yeah, that's not super great but would /latest help? https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikinn-l@lists.wikimedia.org/lat...
I will check if we can do something about it upstream or config. Please file a bug!
fre. 7. mai 2021 kl. 10:04 skrev Mohammed Bachounda <bachounda@gmail.com
:
شكرا امير
Mohammed BACHOUNDA leader WIKIDZ Algeria
Le jeu. 6 mai 2021 à 17:54, Dimi Dimitrov dimi@wikimedia.be a écrit :
Amir,
You're a star!
Thanks! Dimi
Le jeu. 6 mai 2021 à 19:38, John Andersson john.andersson@wikimedia.se a écrit :
Amir, I just wanted to send some love your way for working on this and for keeping us all continuously updated! It is really much appreciated!
Thanks,
John
John Andersson Executive Director Wikimedia Sverige
Phone: +46(0)73-3965189 Email: john.andersson@wikimedia.se Visiting address: Goto10, Hammarby Kaj 10D, 120 32 Stockholm
Den tors 6 maj 2021 kl 18:33 skrev Amir Sarabadani < ladsgroup@gmail.com>:
Hello,
Two updates:
- We have been upgrading mailing lists to mailman3, now more than
1/4th of mailing lists have been migrated, more follow today and next week. Some actions needed (see below)
- We created a new mailing list called listadmins-announce and we
are turning listadmins to a discussion mailing list. So If you don't wish to be involved in mailing list administration discussions, you can unsubscribe from listadmins [1] [2]. But being a member of listadmins-announce is not optional (you can unsubscribe, but you'll be automatically added back in the next update).
*More on upgrade to mm3:* Upgrading +700 mailing lists and more than 17 years of digital archive is... challenging and Mailman3, while being much better than mailman2, is not perfect.
One known issue is that the upgrade script sometimes truncates the info field. We have made changes and reported it to upstream to mitigate it but some mailing lists might not be easily fixable (python version incompatibilities, etc.). So If your mailing list has been upgraded, please check and fix that if it happens. Sorry for any inconvenience.
Private mailing lists won't be upgraded for now (possibly later next week or the week after).
I recommend creating a central account [3] so you can have better control over mailing lists you are a member of or you are an admin.
Please report any issues to us.
Happy emailing
[1] https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/listadmins.lists.wikimedia.org/ [2] https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/listadmins-announce.lists.wikime... [3] https://lists.wikimedia.org/accounts/signup/
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Hi Amir,
Thanks indeed for the upgrade, something I also think that was highly needed from a security perspective, so a good thing.
One thing I did notice with my list being migrated is that we had some lists of non-members being able to post and also some blocked users. I don't find them back in the settings under message acceptance, but I find them in the users section under non members. I find this a bit strange. First of all you really need to go into the user itself before you see if it is a user you allow as non-member, or that it is a user marked to automatically discard. Secondly due to that when an account is created on that e-mail, you see the lists you are a non-member of. You fortunately can't see why you are a non-member, but it seems a small data-leak to me.
Will the old fields to filter users under settings/message acceptance still work, or will those users automatically converted to non-members? As an admin that will be difficult to manage, and it would be at least needed to be able to filter on the set action so you can see what is what. Also I don't think the interface should show you the lists you are a non-member of.
Any thoughts from others on this?
Regards,
André Koopal
On Thu, 6 May 2021 at 18:32, Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
Two updates:
- We have been upgrading mailing lists to mailman3, now more than 1/4th
of mailing lists have been migrated, more follow today and next week. Some actions needed (see below)
- We created a new mailing list called listadmins-announce and we are
turning listadmins to a discussion mailing list. So If you don't wish to be involved in mailing list administration discussions, you can unsubscribe from listadmins [1] [2]. But being a member of listadmins-announce is not optional (you can unsubscribe, but you'll be automatically added back in the next update).
*More on upgrade to mm3:* Upgrading +700 mailing lists and more than 17 years of digital archive is... challenging and Mailman3, while being much better than mailman2, is not perfect.
One known issue is that the upgrade script sometimes truncates the info field. We have made changes and reported it to upstream to mitigate it but some mailing lists might not be easily fixable (python version incompatibilities, etc.). So If your mailing list has been upgraded, please check and fix that if it happens. Sorry for any inconvenience.
Private mailing lists won't be upgraded for now (possibly later next week or the week after).
I recommend creating a central account [3] so you can have better control over mailing lists you are a member of or you are an admin.
Please report any issues to us.
Happy emailing
[1] https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/listadmins.lists.wikimedia.org/ [2] https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/listadmins-announce.lists.wikime... [3] https://lists.wikimedia.org/accounts/signup/
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Thank you, Amir and Kunal, for all of your work on this. It really is appreciated, and the lists I am on that have been transferred so far seem to be mostly okay.
I did note that for one of these lists, the "Information" setting somehow got truncated. As luck has it, we had that fully formatted information on a page onwiki so I was able to "repair" it quickly.
I also note that a non-archiving list of which I am one of the owners shows that it is being actively archived by "hyperkitty". What is that, and why is anything or anyone archiving a deliberately non-archiving list?
Risker/Anne
On Thu, 6 May 2021 at 13:17, Andre Koopal andre@molens.org wrote:
Hi Amir,
Thanks indeed for the upgrade, something I also think that was highly needed from a security perspective, so a good thing.
One thing I did notice with my list being migrated is that we had some lists of non-members being able to post and also some blocked users. I don't find them back in the settings under message acceptance, but I find them in the users section under non members. I find this a bit strange. First of all you really need to go into the user itself before you see if it is a user you allow as non-member, or that it is a user marked to automatically discard. Secondly due to that when an account is created on that e-mail, you see the lists you are a non-member of. You fortunately can't see why you are a non-member, but it seems a small data-leak to me.
Will the old fields to filter users under settings/message acceptance still work, or will those users automatically converted to non-members? As an admin that will be difficult to manage, and it would be at least needed to be able to filter on the set action so you can see what is what. Also I don't think the interface should show you the lists you are a non-member of.
Any thoughts from others on this?
Regards,
André Koopal
On Thu, 6 May 2021 at 18:32, Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
Two updates:
- We have been upgrading mailing lists to mailman3, now more than 1/4th
of mailing lists have been migrated, more follow today and next week. Some actions needed (see below)
- We created a new mailing list called listadmins-announce and we are
turning listadmins to a discussion mailing list. So If you don't wish to be involved in mailing list administration discussions, you can unsubscribe from listadmins [1] [2]. But being a member of listadmins-announce is not optional (you can unsubscribe, but you'll be automatically added back in the next update).
*More on upgrade to mm3:* Upgrading +700 mailing lists and more than 17 years of digital archive is... challenging and Mailman3, while being much better than mailman2, is not perfect.
One known issue is that the upgrade script sometimes truncates the info field. We have made changes and reported it to upstream to mitigate it but some mailing lists might not be easily fixable (python version incompatibilities, etc.). So If your mailing list has been upgraded, please check and fix that if it happens. Sorry for any inconvenience.
Private mailing lists won't be upgraded for now (possibly later next week or the week after).
I recommend creating a central account [3] so you can have better control over mailing lists you are a member of or you are an admin.
Please report any issues to us.
Happy emailing
[1] https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/listadmins.lists.wikimedia.org/ [2] https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/listadmins-announce.lists.wikime... [3] https://lists.wikimedia.org/accounts/signup/
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Hi!
Thanks for the kind words. It's a team effort and I'm lucky to have a magician (Legoktm) in my team. Like, I told you we can't upgrade private mailing lists until next or the week after? He fixed it! I'm already upgrading private mailing lists now.
Responses to issues below.
On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 4:59 AM Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you, Amir and Kunal, for all of your work on this. It really is appreciated, and the lists I am on that have been transferred so far seem to be mostly okay.
I did note that for one of these lists, the "Information" setting somehow got truncated. As luck has it, we had that fully formatted information on a page onwiki so I was able to "repair" it quickly.
Yes. I kept a copy of all info fields from the old mailman, so if anyone lost it, let me know and I can provide it.
I also note that a non-archiving list of which I am one of the owners shows that it is being actively archived by "hyperkitty". What is that, and why is anything or anyone archiving a deliberately non-archiving list?
So, as long as the archive policy is set to "Do not archive this list", the hyperkitty will be noop. (Hyperkitty is the archiver of mailman3 that provides options like searching). For example for the case of checkuser-l that doesn't store any archive (~forty mailing lists have this option: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P15505). You can find its page in hyperkitty, but it's empty https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/checkuser-l@lists.wikimedia.org/...
Risker/Anne
On Thu, 6 May 2021 at 13:17, Andre Koopal andre@molens.org wrote:
Hi Amir,
Thanks indeed for the upgrade, something I also think that was highly needed from a security perspective, so a good thing.
One thing I did notice with my list being migrated is that we had some lists of non-members being able to post and also some blocked users. I don't find them back in the settings under message acceptance, but I find them in the users section under non members. I find this a bit strange. First of all you really need to go into the user itself before you see if it is a user you allow as non-member, or that it is a user marked to automatically discard. Secondly due to that when an account is created on that e-mail, you see the lists you are a non-member of. You fortunately can't see why you are a non-member, but it seems a small data-leak to me.
The non-member option in mailman3 is a bit weird. I agree. Non-member can also mean "accept emails from these address right away" so it's not negative meaning all the time but as you said, I agree.
Will the old fields to filter users under settings/message acceptance still work, or will those users automatically converted to non-members? As an admin that will be difficult to manage, and it would be at least needed to be able to filter on the set action so you can see what is what. Also I don't think the interface should show you the lists you are a non-member of.
Have you tried turning them back to the setting? I haven't tried it yet and it might work. For the issues, you can file a bug in phabricator/upstream. I personally don't see it as a big deal.
Any thoughts from others on this?
Regards,
André Koopal
On Thu, 6 May 2021 at 18:32, Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
Two updates:
- We have been upgrading mailing lists to mailman3, now more than 1/4th
of mailing lists have been migrated, more follow today and next week. Some actions needed (see below)
- We created a new mailing list called listadmins-announce and we are
turning listadmins to a discussion mailing list. So If you don't wish to be involved in mailing list administration discussions, you can unsubscribe from listadmins [1] [2]. But being a member of listadmins-announce is not optional (you can unsubscribe, but you'll be automatically added back in the next update).
*More on upgrade to mm3:* Upgrading +700 mailing lists and more than 17 years of digital archive is... challenging and Mailman3, while being much better than mailman2, is not perfect.
One known issue is that the upgrade script sometimes truncates the info field. We have made changes and reported it to upstream to mitigate it but some mailing lists might not be easily fixable (python version incompatibilities, etc.). So If your mailing list has been upgraded, please check and fix that if it happens. Sorry for any inconvenience.
Private mailing lists won't be upgraded for now (possibly later next week or the week after).
I recommend creating a central account [3] so you can have better control over mailing lists you are a member of or you are an admin.
Please report any issues to us.
Happy emailing
[1] https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/listadmins.lists.wikimedia.org/ [2] https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/listadmins-announce.lists.wikime... [3] https://lists.wikimedia.org/accounts/signup/
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Seconding what others have said: thank you Amir and Kunal (and everyone else involved) for all this work, it's hugely important.
Are we certain that the redirection of archive links is working correctly? I just happened to notice that the two mailing list references at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deceased_Wikipedians/2021#SlimVirgin (to WikiEn-l posts from 2003 and 2004) appear to be broken.
Regards, Tilman
On Thursday, May 6, 2021, Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, Two updates:
- We have been upgrading mailing lists to mailman3, now more than 1/4th
of mailing lists have been migrated, more follow today and next week. Some actions needed (see below)
- We created a new mailing list called listadmins-announce and we are
turning listadmins to a discussion mailing list. So If you don't wish to be involved in mailing list administration discussions, you can unsubscribe from listadmins [1] [2]. But being a member of listadmins-announce is not optional (you can unsubscribe, but you'll be automatically added back in the next update).
More on upgrade to mm3: Upgrading +700 mailing lists and more than 17 years of digital archive
is... challenging and Mailman3, while being much better than mailman2, is not perfect.
One known issue is that the upgrade script sometimes truncates the info
field. We have made changes and reported it to upstream to mitigate it but some mailing lists might not be easily fixable (python version incompatibilities, etc.). So If your mailing list has been upgraded, please check and fix that if it happens. Sorry for any inconvenience.
Private mailing lists won't be upgraded for now (possibly later next week
or the week after).
I recommend creating a central account [3] so you can have better control
over mailing lists you are a member of or you are an admin.
Please report any issues to us. Happy emailing
[1]
https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/listadmins.lists.wikimedia.org/
[2]
https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/listadmins-announce.lists.wikime...
[3] https://lists.wikimedia.org/accounts/signup/
Amir (he/him)
Hi,
On 5/11/21 9:52 AM, Tilman Bayer wrote:
Seconding what others have said: thank you Amir and Kunal (and everyone else involved) for all this work, it's hugely important.
:)
Are we certain that the redirection of archive links is working correctly? I just happened to notice that the two mailing list references at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deceased_Wikipedians/2021#SlimVirgin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deceased_Wikipedians/2021#SlimVirgin (to WikiEn-l posts from 2003 and 2004) appear to be broken.
I had done some spot checks earlier but, yeah, those are definitely wrong. I turned off the redirects for now while I look into why, but they may still be cached by your browser.
-- Kunal
Unfortunately, the new mailman does not recognize my email address and will not let me log in. Please let me know how to fix this.
Mike Godwin
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 1:27 PM Kunal Mehta legoktm@debian.org wrote:
Hi,
On 5/11/21 9:52 AM, Tilman Bayer wrote:
Seconding what others have said: thank you Amir and Kunal (and everyone else involved) for all this work, it's hugely important.
:)
Are we certain that the redirection of archive links is working
correctly?
I just happened to notice that the two mailing list references at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deceased_Wikipedians/2021#SlimVirgin
<
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deceased_Wikipedians/2021#SlimVirgin...
(to WikiEn-l posts from 2003 and 2004) appear to be broken.
I had done some spot checks earlier but, yeah, those are definitely wrong. I turned off the redirects for now while I look into why, but they may still be cached by your browser.
-- Kunal _______________________________________________ Listadmins mailing list -- listadmins@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to listadmins-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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Please do login as a new user using the link sent to you personally. It's meant only for the list admins
On Tue, 11 May 2021, 23:33 Mike Godwin, mnemonic@gmail.com wrote:
Unfortunately, the new mailman does not recognize my email address and will not let me log in. Please let me know how to fix this.
Mike Godwin
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 1:27 PM Kunal Mehta legoktm@debian.org wrote:
Hi,
On 5/11/21 9:52 AM, Tilman Bayer wrote:
Seconding what others have said: thank you Amir and Kunal (and everyone else involved) for all this work, it's hugely important.
:)
Are we certain that the redirection of archive links is working
correctly?
I just happened to notice that the two mailing list references at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deceased_Wikipedians/2021#SlimVirgin
<
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deceased_Wikipedians/2021#SlimVirgin...
(to WikiEn-l posts from 2003 and 2004) appear to be broken.
I had done some spot checks earlier but, yeah, those are definitely wrong. I turned off the redirects for now while I look into why, but they may still be cached by your browser.
-- Kunal _______________________________________________ Listadmins mailing list -- listadmins@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to listadmins-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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Already had tried this. It didn't work.
Mike
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 2:07 PM Adithya K adithyak04@gmail.com wrote:
Please do login as a new user using the link sent to you personally. It's meant only for the list admins
On Tue, 11 May 2021, 23:33 Mike Godwin, mnemonic@gmail.com wrote:
Unfortunately, the new mailman does not recognize my email address and will not let me log in. Please let me know how to fix this.
Mike Godwin
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 1:27 PM Kunal Mehta legoktm@debian.org wrote:
Hi,
On 5/11/21 9:52 AM, Tilman Bayer wrote:
Seconding what others have said: thank you Amir and Kunal (and
everyone
else involved) for all this work, it's hugely important.
:)
Are we certain that the redirection of archive links is working
correctly?
I just happened to notice that the two mailing list references at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deceased_Wikipedians/2021#SlimVirgin
<
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deceased_Wikipedians/2021#SlimVirgin...
(to WikiEn-l posts from 2003 and 2004) appear to be broken.
I had done some spot checks earlier but, yeah, those are definitely wrong. I turned off the redirects for now while I look into why, but they may still be cached by your browser.
-- Kunal _______________________________________________ Listadmins mailing list -- listadmins@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to listadmins-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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As a sidenote: it took for me about a day after linking my emails together before lists would appear on the overview.
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 11:25 AM Mike Godwin mnemonic@gmail.com wrote:
Already had tried this. It didn't work.
Mike
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 2:07 PM Adithya K adithyak04@gmail.com wrote:
Please do login as a new user using the link sent to you personally. It's meant only for the list admins
On Tue, 11 May 2021, 23:33 Mike Godwin, mnemonic@gmail.com wrote:
Unfortunately, the new mailman does not recognize my email address and will not let me log in. Please let me know how to fix this.
Mike Godwin
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 1:27 PM Kunal Mehta legoktm@debian.org wrote:
Hi,
On 5/11/21 9:52 AM, Tilman Bayer wrote:
Seconding what others have said: thank you Amir and Kunal (and
everyone
else involved) for all this work, it's hugely important.
:)
Are we certain that the redirection of archive links is working
correctly?
I just happened to notice that the two mailing list references at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deceased_Wikipedians/2021#SlimVirgin
<
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deceased_Wikipedians/2021#SlimVirgin...
(to WikiEn-l posts from 2003 and 2004) appear to be broken.
I had done some spot checks earlier but, yeah, those are definitely wrong. I turned off the redirects for now while I look into why, but they may still be cached by your browser.
-- Kunal _______________________________________________ Listadmins mailing list -- listadmins@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to listadmins-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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I also have the same problem. wikispecies-l says my email address is not assigned to any user account.
Andrew ________________________________ From: Mike Godwin mnemonic@gmail.com Sent: May 11, 2021 2:02 PM To: List for discussions and announcements related to lists.wikimedia.org listadmins@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [List admins] Re: Upgrade to mailman3, new mailing list for admins (-announce)
Unfortunately, the new mailman does not recognize my email address and will not let me log in. Please let me know how to fix this.
Mike Godwin
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 1:27 PM Kunal Mehta <legoktm@debian.orgmailto:legoktm@debian.org> wrote: Hi,
On 5/11/21 9:52 AM, Tilman Bayer wrote:
Seconding what others have said: thank you Amir and Kunal (and everyone else involved) for all this work, it's hugely important.
:)
Are we certain that the redirection of archive links is working correctly? I just happened to notice that the two mailing list references at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deceased_Wikipedians/2021#SlimVirgin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deceased_Wikipedians/2021#SlimVirgin (to WikiEn-l posts from 2003 and 2004) appear to be broken.
I had done some spot checks earlier but, yeah, those are definitely wrong. I turned off the redirects for now while I look into why, but they may still be cached by your browser.
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Hi Andrew, Mike,
On 5/11/21 11:14 AM, Andrew Leung wrote:
I also have the same problem. wikispecies-l says my email address is not assigned to any user account.
You need to create an account at https://lists.wikimedia.org/accounts/signup/?next=/postorius/. Make sure you use the same email address as what was set as the list owner (your @hotmail.com).
*From:* Mike Godwin mnemonic@gmail.com
Unfortunately, the new mailman does not recognize my email address and will not let me log in. Please let me know how to fix this.
I can see your account exists so it's something different. I'll follow-up with you offlist.
-- Kunal
I can't figure out how to login to moderate Functionaries-en. Thanks.
Doug Weller English Wikipedia administrator/CheckUser/Oversight Member of the Arbitration Committee 2015-2018 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 7:33 PM Kunal Mehta legoktm@debian.org wrote:
Hi Andrew, Mike,
On 5/11/21 11:14 AM, Andrew Leung wrote:
I also have the same problem. wikispecies-l says my email address is not assigned to any user account.
You need to create an account at https://lists.wikimedia.org/accounts/signup/?next=/postorius/. Make sure you use the same email address as what was set as the list owner (your @hotmail.com).
*From:* Mike Godwin mnemonic@gmail.com
Unfortunately, the new mailman does not recognize my email address and will not let me log in. Please let me know how to fix this.
I can see your account exists so it's something different. I'll follow-up with you offlist.
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@Doug Weller: Please create a personal account using this link: https://lists.wikimedia.org/accounts/signup/
Use the email address you have for moderating I assume ( dougwellerarbcom@gmail.com)? and it'll automatically give you the rights to your personal account.
On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 12:06 PM Doug Weller dougwellerarbcom@gmail.com wrote:
I can't figure out how to login to moderate Functionaries-en. Thanks.
Doug Weller English Wikipedia administrator/CheckUser/Oversight Member of the Arbitration Committee 2015-2018 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 7:33 PM Kunal Mehta legoktm@debian.org wrote:
Hi Andrew, Mike,
On 5/11/21 11:14 AM, Andrew Leung wrote:
I also have the same problem. wikispecies-l says my email address is
not
assigned to any user account.
You need to create an account at https://lists.wikimedia.org/accounts/signup/?next=/postorius/. Make sure you use the same email address as what was set as the list owner (your @hotmail.com).
*From:* Mike Godwin mnemonic@gmail.com
Unfortunately, the new mailman does not recognize my email address and will not let me log in. Please let me know how to fix this.
I can see your account exists so it's something different. I'll follow-up with you offlist.
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Thanks. Doug Weller English Wikipedia administrator/CheckUser/Oversight Member of the Arbitration Committee 2015-2018 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller
On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 12:21 PM Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
@Doug Weller: Please create a personal account using this link: https://lists.wikimedia.org/accounts/signup/
Use the email address you have for moderating I assume ( dougwellerarbcom@gmail.com)? and it'll automatically give you the rights to your personal account.
On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 12:06 PM Doug Weller dougwellerarbcom@gmail.com wrote:
I can't figure out how to login to moderate Functionaries-en. Thanks.
Doug Weller English Wikipedia administrator/CheckUser/Oversight Member of the Arbitration Committee 2015-2018 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 7:33 PM Kunal Mehta legoktm@debian.org wrote:
Hi Andrew, Mike,
On 5/11/21 11:14 AM, Andrew Leung wrote:
I also have the same problem. wikispecies-l says my email address is
not
assigned to any user account.
You need to create an account at https://lists.wikimedia.org/accounts/signup/?next=/postorius/. Make sure you use the same email address as what was set as the list owner (your @hotmail.com).
*From:* Mike Godwin mnemonic@gmail.com
Unfortunately, the new mailman does not recognize my email address and will not let me log in. Please let me know how to fix this.
I can see your account exists so it's something different. I'll follow-up with you offlist.
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Hi,
I am facing the same problem, is it an overall issue post migration? if it is, is it faced only by the group admins/moderators or all the subscribers?
Thanks, Dhaval
On Wed, 12 May 2021 at 12:21, Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
@Doug Weller: Please create a personal account using this link: https://lists.wikimedia.org/accounts/signup/
Use the email address you have for moderating I assume ( dougwellerarbcom@gmail.com)? and it'll automatically give you the rights to your personal account.
On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 12:06 PM Doug Weller dougwellerarbcom@gmail.com wrote:
I can't figure out how to login to moderate Functionaries-en. Thanks.
Doug Weller English Wikipedia administrator/CheckUser/Oversight Member of the Arbitration Committee 2015-2018 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 7:33 PM Kunal Mehta legoktm@debian.org wrote:
Hi Andrew, Mike,
On 5/11/21 11:14 AM, Andrew Leung wrote:
I also have the same problem. wikispecies-l says my email address is
not
assigned to any user account.
You need to create an account at https://lists.wikimedia.org/accounts/signup/?next=/postorius/. Make sure you use the same email address as what was set as the list owner (your @hotmail.com).
*From:* Mike Godwin mnemonic@gmail.com
Unfortunately, the new mailman does not recognize my email address and will not let me log in. Please let me know how to fix this.
I can see your account exists so it's something different. I'll follow-up with you offlist.
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What problem do you mean exactly? If you mean that your admin password doesn't work anymore. I said it before and I will say it again. There's no such thing as admin password anymore.Y You create a central personal account (tied to your email) and you get admin rights in mailing lists you are admin automatically. See it similar to Wikis, create a shared account, you will be admin in places you are. This is not a problem. It is by design (and improves security and user experience).
You can create an account in https://lists.wikimedia.org/accounts/signup/
HTH
On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 2:36 AM Dhaval S. Vyas dsvyas@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I am facing the same problem, is it an overall issue post migration? if it is, is it faced only by the group admins/moderators or all the subscribers?
Thanks, Dhaval
On Wed, 12 May 2021 at 12:21, Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
@Doug Weller: Please create a personal account using this link: https://lists.wikimedia.org/accounts/signup/
Use the email address you have for moderating I assume ( dougwellerarbcom@gmail.com)? and it'll automatically give you the rights to your personal account.
On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 12:06 PM Doug Weller dougwellerarbcom@gmail.com wrote:
I can't figure out how to login to moderate Functionaries-en. Thanks.
Doug Weller English Wikipedia administrator/CheckUser/Oversight Member of the Arbitration Committee 2015-2018 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 7:33 PM Kunal Mehta legoktm@debian.org wrote:
Hi Andrew, Mike,
On 5/11/21 11:14 AM, Andrew Leung wrote:
I also have the same problem. wikispecies-l says my email address is
not
assigned to any user account.
You need to create an account at https://lists.wikimedia.org/accounts/signup/?next=/postorius/. Make sure you use the same email address as what was set as the list owner (your @hotmail.com).
*From:* Mike Godwin mnemonic@gmail.com
Unfortunately, the new mailman does not recognize my email address
and
will not let me log in. Please let me know how to fix this.
I can see your account exists so it's something different. I'll follow-up with you offlist.
-- Kunal _______________________________________________ Listadmins mailing list -- listadmins@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to listadmins-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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