Hi,
Changed the subject to make this a separate thread, as I like some opinions.
On Fri, 7 May 2021 at 06:45, Amir Sarabadani <ladsgroup(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 6 May 2021 at 13:17, Andre Koopal <andre(a)molens.org> wrote:
Hi Amir,
Thanks indeed for the upgrade, something I also think that was highly
needed from a security perspective, so a good thing.
One thing I did notice with my list being migrated is that we had some
lists of non-members being able to post and also some blocked users. I
don't find them back in the settings under message acceptance, but I find
them in the users section under non members. I find this a bit strange.
First of all you really need to go into the user itself before you see if
it is a user you allow as non-member, or that it is a user marked to
automatically discard. Secondly due to that when an account is created on
that e-mail, you see the lists you are a non-member of. You fortunately
can't see why you are a non-member, but it seems a small data-leak to me.
The non-member option in mailman3 is a bit weird. I agree. Non-member can
also mean "accept emails from these address right away" so it's not
negative meaning all the time but as you said, I agree.
It can be positive or negative indeed, But it is still strange, that you
can see that you are a non-member, in principle it is of no use, as you
can't change anything on it, and I think these are settings for the the
admins/moderators of the lists with no need for the users to see it.
Will the
old fields to filter users under settings/message acceptance
still work, or will those users automatically converted to non-members? As
an admin that will be difficult to manage, and it would be at least needed
to be able to filter on the set action so you can see what is what. Also I
don't think the interface should show you the lists you are a non-member of.
Have you tried turning them back to the setting? I haven't tried it
yet
and it might work. For the issues, you can file a bug in
phabricator/upstream. I personally don't see it as a big deal.
I quickly tried to put one e-mail address in the 'Accept these non-members'
section, and it wasn't converted to a non-member so it seems the lists
there work as well. Didn't completely test if it works but I assume it
will, as otherwise there would be more complaints.
Don't mind creating phabricator tickets but I would like to hear a bit more
options, is it ok the old settings with lists with fields have been
converted to non-members, or would it have been better to just have them in
the lists in a text field only, where you have an overview. Any more
opinions?
I also would like a bit more input if others indeed think it is wrong that
you can see the lists where you are non-member off.
At least for the filter option, I already created T282325.
Regards,
André Koopal