Hi,
Changed the subject to make this a separate thread, as I like some opinions.
On Fri, 7 May 2021 at 06:45, Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 6 May 2021 at 13:17, Andre Koopal andre@molens.org wrote:
Hi Amir,
Thanks indeed for the upgrade, something I also think that was highly needed from a security perspective, so a good thing.
One thing I did notice with my list being migrated is that we had some lists of non-members being able to post and also some blocked users. I don't find them back in the settings under message acceptance, but I find them in the users section under non members. I find this a bit strange. First of all you really need to go into the user itself before you see if it is a user you allow as non-member, or that it is a user marked to automatically discard. Secondly due to that when an account is created on that e-mail, you see the lists you are a non-member of. You fortunately can't see why you are a non-member, but it seems a small data-leak to me.
The non-member option in mailman3 is a bit weird. I agree. Non-member can also mean "accept emails from these address right away" so it's not negative meaning all the time but as you said, I agree.
It can be positive or negative indeed, But it is still strange, that you can see that you are a non-member, in principle it is of no use, as you can't change anything on it, and I think these are settings for the the admins/moderators of the lists with no need for the users to see it.
Will the old fields to filter users under settings/message acceptance still work, or will those users automatically converted to non-members? As an admin that will be difficult to manage, and it would be at least needed to be able to filter on the set action so you can see what is what. Also I don't think the interface should show you the lists you are a non-member of.
Have you tried turning them back to the setting? I haven't tried it yet and it might work. For the issues, you can file a bug in phabricator/upstream. I personally don't see it as a big deal.
I quickly tried to put one e-mail address in the 'Accept these non-members' section, and it wasn't converted to a non-member so it seems the lists there work as well. Didn't completely test if it works but I assume it will, as otherwise there would be more complaints.
Don't mind creating phabricator tickets but I would like to hear a bit more options, is it ok the old settings with lists with fields have been converted to non-members, or would it have been better to just have them in the lists in a text field only, where you have an overview. Any more opinions?
I also would like a bit more input if others indeed think it is wrong that you can see the lists where you are non-member off.
At least for the filter option, I already created T282325.
Regards,
André Koopal