It would be more convincing if such a request would come from someone affiliated with the WMF, someone with authority, instead of a random nobody like myself who represents nobody but their self. Also, the theory that hotmail is the problem and that contacting them could resolve anything needs further explaining/better arguments. Regads, Natuur12 On Saturday, June 5, 2021, 10:58:27 PM GMT+2, Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
It seems the checkuser-owner is being targeted by spammers. For now you can disable bounce processing https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/checkuser-l.lists.wikimedia.org/... From the look of the issue, it seems hotmail has a strict policy for spam and/or it needs updating for mm3, maybe contact hotmail support for this and explain that it's wikimedia and we just upgraded our mailman version and they need to adapt their filters? Google has a button on spam emails you can click to say "it's not spam" and it helps improve their spam detection models. Maybe hotmail has something similar. If so, please use that. HTH On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 8:16 PM Trijnstel wp trijnstel@hotmail.com wrote:
PS. Note that since the upgrade more emails from the various mailing lists were put by Hotmail in the Junk mail... That never happened before. Trijnstel Van: Trijnstel wp trijnstel@hotmail.com Verzonden: zaterdag 5 juni 2021 20:04 Aan: Federico Leva (Nemo) nemowiki@gmail.com; List for discussions related to list admins on lists.wikimedia.org listadmins@lists.wikimedia.org Onderwerp: [List admins] Re: Subscription disabled due to a bounce score? It's a weird situation. Like I told Kunal: I've never had problems before, only after the upgrade and only for checkuser-l. I was afk for a few days, and only now I noticed my email got disabled again on 1 June. So I missed quite a few emails. As checkuser-l isn't archived I can't read them back (only when someone emails me the missing emails...). I think we should do something about this on our part. I don't think the problem is my email. Perhaps Hotmail as a whole?
Trijnstel Van: Federico Leva (Nemo) nemowiki@gmail.com Verzonden: dinsdag 1 juni 2021 17:32 Aan: List for discussions related to list admins on lists.wikimedia.org listadmins@lists.wikimedia.org; Trijnstel wp trijnstel@hotmail.com Onderwerp: Re: [List admins] Subscription disabled due to a bounce score? I was just notified of 25 unsubscriptions from the Wikidata mailing list (and 2 on WikiIT-l). They were probably all "real" bounces, and mostly they were former WMF or WMDE staffers whose mailbox was presumably disabled, but I saw some addresses that I know for sure are working.
Google, Microsoft and others are known to lie about mail delivery. It's possible that by sending an unusual amount (or rate) of email to some non-existing addresses we got somehow treated like spammers, and some messages to existing mailboxes were treated as the kind of spam that is bad enough to bounce back with a lie but not bad enough to be silently discarded. I have no idea how to debug this for Google or Microsoft mailservers but I've suggested one user whose email is on a personal domain name to file a bug with any logs they might have. I hope that's fine.
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