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Wikipedia classes in the Public Library setting
by Bettina Cousineau 25 Jun '13

25 Jun '13

Hello - Is anyone else using classroom space in their local public library to teach editing skills/as part of the library's computer class offerings? I'd love to hear your experiences. Here's what's going on in Michigan this summer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/West_Michigan#2013 Also, has anyone developed a good core curriculum to teach the librarians how to help their patrons use Wikipedia? Thanks for the input. Cheers, Bettina

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Re: [libraries] Wikipedia classes in the Public Library setting
by Bettina Cousineau 18 Jun '13

18 Jun '13

I dunno, I think for newbie editors it might be nice to let them edit what excites them during an edit-a-thon - especially if the turn-out is on the small side. Creates more ownership? I've done the following experiment with brand new editors: picked a benign article that a new editor was passionate about (we chose hotels) and added a few sentences. The newbie was excited to see his work in the established article, and even more so when the edit was QUICKLY patrolled and removed (no citations) as I warned it would be (no citations). The patroller also added a note to the newbie's talk page, which we replied to during the class. We visited the patroller's pages and learned about his interests and editing history (his page had his name, no gender-judgment intended) .... and the newbie spent the rest of the class checking his own talk page to see if the patroller had replied! Connection established. This experiment serves as a useful argument against comments like "Wikipediais badly sourced/written/etc" because the time between posting the edit and the patroller deleting it provides evidence that Wikipedia is closely monitored for sourcing/vandalism/etc. Slightly off topic, but useful I hope. Yes, it is tough being the only Wikipedian in the 'hood....be bold and do your own edit-a-thon! *What are 10 things Librarians should know about Wikipedia in order to help their patrons become better consumers (and perhaps editors)?* Compiling a list that will turn into a course on https://p2pu.org/en/ - joiners needed! (PS "newbie" always used with affection) Cheers, Bettina On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:00 AM, <libraries-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org>wrote: > Send Libraries mailing list submissions to > libraries(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/libraries > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > libraries-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > libraries-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Libraries digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Wikipedia classes in the Public Library setting > (Derric Atzrott) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:08:12 -0400 > From: "Derric Atzrott" <datzrott(a)alizeepathology.com> > To: "'Wikimedia & Libraries'" <libraries(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [libraries] Wikipedia classes in the Public Library > setting > Message-ID: <033a01ce6b6c$7cbc5380$7634fa80$(a)alizeepathology.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > >We also do small group instruction and even co-editing--we have been able > to > > >maintain at least a ratio of 1 experienced Wikipedia editor to 4 > inexperienced > > >participants, and usually better. My advice is that if editing is > planned, > > >you need at least a 1:4 ratio, and if possible 1:2. Also, 2 participants > to a > > >computer is possible, but 1:1 is better. It is also very advisable to have > > >topics in mind suitable for beginners., though some will have their own > ideas. > > > > How does co-editing work? And do you think that it is possible for one > person > > to pull of managing an edit-a-thon? I've been thinking about holding one > at my > > local library and actually subscribed to this mailing list hoping a thread > > like this would come up. As far as I can tell, I'm the only Wikipedian in > the > > general area (haven't met any others at least, and I organzied the Wiknic > for > > my area last year). > > > > For topics I was thinking local historical items that have poor coverage on > > Wikipedia; I see you recommend recent deaths. Do you have any other topic > > recommendations to make to participants? > > > > Thank you, > > Derric Atzrott > >

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Re: [libraries] Libraries Digest, Vol 16, Issue 5
by Bettina Cousineau 14 Jun '13

14 Jun '13

Thank you, everyone. This is such useful information! I encourage you to please add your experiences/projects/materials/etc to: http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Libraries - if you haven't already. There are some exciting next steps in Kent County - we'll report back. Bettina On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 8:00 AM, <libraries-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org>wrote: > Send Libraries mailing list submissions to > libraries(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/libraries > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > libraries-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > libraries-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Libraries digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Wikipedia classes in the Public Library setting > (David Goodman) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 17:19:20 -0400 > From: David Goodman <dggenwp(a)gmail.com> > To: "Wikimedia & Libraries" <libraries(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [libraries] Wikipedia classes in the Public Library > setting > Message-ID: > <CANiz0h2HHwWdLVUh672kaoZizwiL3hf0oQX= > zX_xL3WfqjLkZw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > The NYC Chapter has taught two types of sessions: subject-oriented > editathons, which we have held at the New York Public Library research > divisions, both at the Main library and at Performing Arts, and general > interest classes at both the Brooklyn and New York public library. We plan > to hold more of both at these locations, and also hope to do so elsewhere > in the city. Even for the subject-oriented classes, many of the > participants are really interested in (and need) general instruction. > > We have sometimes followed the outline Bob mentioned earlier, relatively > formal talks in a more lecture-style setting, we have almost always had > at least two experienced Wikipedia editors,sometimes 4 or 5. Our most > common format is two of us, one at the computer terminal and one at the > screen, changing places every 10 or 15 minutes, starting with a script, but > very soon moving on to following the threads suggested by the questions > from the audience. Other Wikipedians either take turns, or answer > individual questions. > > We also do small group instruction and even co-editing--we have been able > to maintain at least a ratio of 1 experienced Wikipedia editor to 4 > inexperienced participants, and usually better. My advice is that if > editing is planned, you need at least a 1:4 ratio, and if possible 1:2. > Also, 2 participants to a computer is possible, but 1:1 is better. It is > also very advisable to have topics in mind suitable for beginners., though > some will have their own ideas. > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 5:57 AM, Anna Raunik <Anna.Raunik(a)slq.qld.gov.au > >wrote: > > > Hi **** > > > > The State Library of Queensland is working with public libraries and > > regional organisations in this space. **** > > > > ** ** > > > > We’ve developed a training manual available from > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/SLQ**** > > > > ** ** > > > > A recent conference presentation is available > > http://information-online.com.au/proposals.html**** > > > > “Doing it the Wikiway – giving local content global access, a grass roots > > perspective”**** > > > > ** ** > > > > Good luck with your initiative **** > > > > ** ** > > > > **** > > > > Anna **** > > > > * * > > > > *Anna Raunik* *|* Executive Manager, Discovery | Content Development | > * > > *** > > > > State Library of **Queensland** | ****PO Box** 3488** | **South > Brisbane**4101 > > **** > > > > *t* +61 7 3840 7828 | *f *+61 7 3840 7860| *e* > anna.raunik(a)slq.qld.gov.au; > > | www.slq.qld.gov.au**** > > > > *From:* libraries-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: > > libraries-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Bettina Cousineau > > *Sent:* Wednesday, 12 June 2013 6:10 AM > > *To:* libraries(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > > *Subject:* [libraries] Wikipedia classes in the Public Library > setting**** > > > > ** ** > > > > Hello - **** > > > > Is anyone else using classroom space in their local public library to > > teach editing skills/as part of the library's computer class offerings? > I'd > > love to hear your experiences. **** > > > > Here's what's going on in Michigan this summer: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/West_Michigan#2013 > > > > Also, has anyone developed a good core curriculum to teach the librarians > > how to help their patrons use Wikipedia? **** > > > > Thanks for the input. **** > > > > Cheers, **** > > > > Bettina**** > > > > ** > > > > [image: State Library of Queensland] <http://www.slq.qld.gov.au> > > > > *Disclaimer* > > > > This e-mail, together with any attachments, is intended for the named > > recipient(s) only. 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Re: [libraries] Wikipedia classes in the Public Library setting
by Bettina Cousineau 12 Jun '13

12 Jun '13

Thank you all for the useful responses! I was particularly interested in the statistic "25% of the libraries sampled give workshops on how to use Wikipedia" from the Primary Research Group study. I'm also getting more curious about how/if there is a need to serve the librarians beyond teaching them editing skills. I need to add this disclaimer: I'm an employee of the National Archives and Records Administration, and this interest/project does not in any way represent NARA policy or procedure. Cheers, Bettina

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by Gelover, Karen B. 11 Jun '13

11 Jun '13

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