Фархад Фаткуллин, 18/11/2015 13:11:
One clearly notable trend observed in both Russia and Turkic Wikipedias groups is seasonality in the number of visit, except for the Wikis that have some sort of organization taking care for them (growth for Russian, Ukrainian, Turkish, relatively stable for Azeri, Kazakh and Finnish vs. x2-3 times decrease for all others in both groups).
Seasonality means (recurring) oscillation, why do you oppose it to growth? From a quick look, all the languages you put in "growth" have seasonalities: https://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesPageViewsMonthlyOriginalCombined.htm
Nemo
Фархад Фаткуллин, 19/11/2015 21:35:
*Main Page visits* *per project per month* (which is different from Combined Totals above). I obtained them from http://stats.grok.se/ http://stats.grok.se/
Thanks for this work but that number doesn't mean anything. stats.grok.se doesn't include mobile visits, so you mostly measures what wikis are visited on mobile or not. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Killiondude/stats
My main point is the difference in the drop among various wikis (some drop slightly, some by x2-3) - this is visible from Combined stats above too (in both Russia and Turkic languages related groups).
I don't see this different clearly: what months are you comparing? If you read the green banner you know we don't currently have year-over-year data.
Different language Wikipedias receive different degrees of attention from their linguistic communities
Sure. This is called language prestige, isn't it? Some research on the topic: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0077056
Nemo
Фархад Фаткуллин, 23/11/2015 07:21:
- I noted that figure given by {{NUMBEROF|ARTICLES}} and one that is
shown by stats.wikimedia.org Summary files per Wikipedia language editions vary, even if slightly... ex. sahwiki - 10 619, https://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/SummarySAH.htm - 11,499
See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Article_counts_revisited
- Drops in visit levels per month (up to x2-3 times) are results of
comparing mid-June to mid-Nov figures I've done using http://stats.grok.se/ but even stats.wikimedia.org seems to suggest something similar.
Well, I don't see such a thing. It's probably best to wait for the recent data cleanup to be applied to older months as well (the tracaking report is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114379 : quite technical, but you can just check if there is activity and if it's marked resolved).
- Thanks for Language Prestige article, useful insights.
I invited WMRU guys to consider if we can show our appreciation for languages of Russia by offering a possibility to view/translate the Main page of https://ru.wikimedia.org/ in(to) respective languages. However, I believe we need to start with https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Russia, which is really behind its counterparts - placed respective request to mark for translation with respective administrator.
Well, that might be useful to convince a handful wikimedians who visit those pages, but not the general population. Language prestige is usually increased by things like * official use of the language, * famous literature and other works in the language, * TV screening at least some programs in the language (they do this in Finland's YLE), * advanced technology supporting the language.
Nemo
Фархад Фаткуллин, 24/11/2015 10:49:
List of those (and some 40 more still in incubator) is available via https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_in_languages_of_Russia (more details in ttwiki). By the way, do you think it's Ok for me to try bringing this data on Meta (to get advantage of latter's Page translation mechanism)?
Yes, that table shouldn't be on the English Wikipedia.
Nemo