Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 07:42:21 -0700 From: Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org To: Editor Engagement ee@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [EE] Account creation suggestion Message-ID: 6D4B5705-6306-42C9-8006-C457A98FB577@wikimedia.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
On Sep 5, 2013, at 11:39 PM, Steven Walling swalling@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 11:25 PM, ENWP Pine deyntestiss@hotmail.com wrote: As a part of the AC process on ENWP can we automatically sign up users for Signpost talkpage deliveries, or at least strongly encourage them to sign up for delivery, and offer them a choice of our many interest specific newsletters? I think this could help to further engage new editors with the broader Wikipedia community and its diverse activities and interests.
Pine
Before we do that, let's make Signpost delivery a notification (i.e. instead of dropping it on your talk page, just notify you when a new edition is released). Then it's quite easy to opt everyone in, new or existing.
+1 excellent idea
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 22:35:25 +0100 From: Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk To: Editor Engagement ee@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [EE] Account creation suggestion Message-ID: CAE4f==fYu0KL0kHomuwXn-n=fQuOz=qurwBsdAGx8XNqo+d1PA@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
I have a vague recollection of discussing this before with someone (Steven?)
I'd love to see this done, but one caveat - since it effectively means a weekly message to them, some clear way to unsubscribe would be needed, preferably without the technically complex solution of "edit this page, find your username, remove it".
Thinking ahead...
There's around a dozen projects both on enwiki and elsewhere that have active newsletters, as well - the most obvious is the research newsletter, but This Month In GLAM, some wikiproject-specific newsletters, etc etc. A single easy way to sign up for more than one of these, plus other opt-in messaging services like SuggestBot, would be very nice.
For more advanced users, if we had such an interface, you could add features like the randomised RFC recruitment feature.
But starting with the Signpost sounds great :-). I recommend you talk to Ed (user:the_ed17) ASAP if you're interested in pushing ahead with something like this.
Andrew.
On 6 September 2013 07:25, ENWP Pine deyntestiss@hotmail.com wrote:
As a part of the AC process on ENWP can we automatically sign up users for Signpost talkpage deliveries, or at least strongly encourage them to sign up for delivery, and offer them a choice of our many interest specific newsletters? I think this could help to further engage new editors with the broader Wikipedia community and its diverse activities and interests.
Pine
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- Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk
Hi Andrew, you may be thinking of Flow. I have seen a reference to Flow handling newsletters. We don't need Ed's permission to distribute the Signpost but I agree that an opt-out option should be included in the notification in a way that's easy for the user to select so that the Signpost's talk pages aren't flooded with opt-out requests.
Steven, that's a great idea for wider visibility. Can you talk to the right people to implement this notification, along with an opt-out feature, forward compatibility with Flow, and the capacity to add other newsletters such as Kurier or This Month in GLAM on any wiki that uses Echo?
Pine
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 07:42:21 -0700 From: Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org To: Editor Engagement ee@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [EE] Account creation suggestion Message-ID: 6D4B5705-6306-42C9-8006-C457A98FB577@wikimedia.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
On Sep 5, 2013, at 11:39 PM, Steven Walling swalling@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 11:25 PM, ENWP Pine deyntestiss@hotmail.com wrote: As a part of the AC process on ENWP can we automatically sign up users for Signpost talkpage deliveries, or at least strongly encourage them to sign up for delivery, and offer them a choice of our many interest specific newsletters? I think this could help to further engage new editors with the broader Wikipedia community and its diverse activities and interests.
Pine
Before we do that, let's make Signpost delivery a notification (i.e. instead of dropping it on your talk page, just notify you when a new edition is released). Then it's quite easy to opt everyone in, new or existing.
+1 excellent idea
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 22:35:25 +0100 From: Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk To: Editor Engagement ee@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [EE] Account creation suggestion Message-ID: CAE4f==fYu0KL0kHomuwXn-n=fQuOz=qurwBsdAGx8XNqo+d1PA@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
I have a vague recollection of discussing this before with someone (Steven?)
I'd love to see this done, but one caveat - since it effectively means a weekly message to them, some clear way to unsubscribe would be needed, preferably without the technically complex solution of "edit this page, find your username, remove it".
Thinking ahead...
There's around a dozen projects both on enwiki and elsewhere that have active newsletters, as well - the most obvious is the research newsletter, but This Month In GLAM, some wikiproject-specific newsletters, etc etc. A single easy way to sign up for more than one of these, plus other opt-in messaging services like SuggestBot, would be very nice.
For more advanced users, if we had such an interface, you could add features like the randomised RFC recruitment feature.
But starting with the Signpost sounds great :-). I recommend you talk to Ed (user:the_ed17) ASAP if you're interested in pushing ahead with something like this.
Andrew.
On 6 September 2013 07:25, ENWP Pine deyntestiss@hotmail.com wrote:
As a part of the AC process on ENWP can we automatically sign up users for Signpost talkpage deliveries, or at least strongly encourage them to sign up for delivery, and offer them a choice of our many interest specific newsletters? I think this could help to further engage new editors with the broader Wikipedia community and its diverse activities and interests.
Pine
EE mailing list EE@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee
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- Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk
Email subject line fixed.
Hi Andrew, you may be thinking of Flow. I have seen a reference to Flow handling newsletters. We don't need Ed's permission to distribute the Signpost but I agree that an opt-out option should be included in the notification in a way that's easy for the user to select so that the Signpost's talk pages aren't flooded with opt-out requests.
Steven, that's a great idea for wider visibility. Can you talk to the right people to implement this notification, along with an opt-out feature, forward compatibility with Flow, and the capacity to add other newsletters such as Kurier or This Month in GLAM on any wiki that uses Echo?
Pine
Picking up an old email (busy week)
On Monday, 9 September 2013, ENWP Pine wrote:
Hi Andrew, you may be thinking of Flow. I have seen a reference to Flow handling newsletters. We don't need Ed's permission to distribute the Signpost but I agree that an opt-out option should be included in the notification in a way that's easy for the user to select so that the Signpost's talk pages aren't flooded with opt-out requests.
Steven, that's a great idea for wider visibility. Can you talk to the right people to implement this notification, along with an opt-out feature, forward compatibility with Flow, and the capacity to add other newsletters such as Kurier or This Month in GLAM on any wiki that uses Echo?
Pine: nope, was definitely thinking of doing it within Echo - I just can't remember who it was I talked to about this. It clearly didn't go anywhere, though ;-)
I don't think we need permission to distribute any of the newsletters, but it does seem to make obvious sense to talk to the people who currently write/distribute them before we start planning details - it could well be that there's something blindingly obvious about the way they distribute it that we're missing and will cause pitfalls for us. I've been caught by these before...
Andrew.
On 09/08/2013 11:00 PM, ENWP Pine wrote:
Steven, that's a great idea for wider visibility. Can you talk to the right people to implement this notification, along with an opt-out feature, forward compatibility with Flow, and the capacity to add other newsletters such as Kurier or This Month in GLAM on any wiki that uses Echo?
Flow and Echo are mainly E2, which is led by Maryana (although other features will/do leverage Flow and Echo when useful).
Matt Flaschen