Quim is this something that could be completed this calendar year? Would it need to be in the next Annual Plan?
Pine
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 21:39:40 -0800 From: Quim Gil qgil@wikimedia.org To: ee@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [EE] Newsletters Message-ID: 52D37C1C.2000905@wikimedia.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi,
On 01/06/2014 09:00 AM, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
On 01/04/2014 01:35 AM, ENWP Pine wrote:
Happy new year, EE.
How is the Newsletter extension coming along? The most recent discussion on the talk page appears to be from September.
I don't think anyone is currently working on this. Siebrand and Quim started https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Newsletter , but there has only been one commit.
When MassMessage appeared I thought it could be worth trying to find a way to extend it satisfying the needs of newsletter publishers and subscribers. For instance, see
Bug 57935 - Handling MassMessage subscription through user preferences https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57935
Bug 57937 - Option to subscribe new users to MassMessage by default https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57937
Bug 57473 - MassMessage should support using a category as an input list https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57473
However, according to Legoktm this might be a too long shot.
Another possibility (probably the right one, but afaik nobody is working in this direction) is to have a pure Echo plugin with an interface to handle subscriptions, channels, and a couple of roles.
I still think Wikimedia and the MediaWiki community will benefit a lot from this feature...
-- Quim Gil Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil
On 01/19/2014 01:36 PM, ENWP Pine wrote:
Quim is this something that could be completed this calendar year? Would it need to be in the next Annual Plan?
Having no budget and not being at the Product or Features teams, it is very easy for me to speak. :) :((
So far Newsletters don't seem to be in any WMF roadmap and I have no intention (neither good arguments) to challenge the current plans.
Then again, this looks like a project that could be developed by someone else independently. Maybe this is a good GSoC / OPW project? If a technical mentor is interested, I would be happy volunteering as product mentor - tester - community liaison - stakeholder - younameit.
With Newsletters and Flow evolved, many MediaWikis could start forgetting about outsourcing their most basic communication to Mailman.
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 21:39:40 -0800 From: Quim Gil qgil@wikimedia.org To: ee@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [EE] Newsletters Message-ID: 52D37C1C.2000905@wikimedia.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi,
On 01/06/2014 09:00 AM, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
On 01/04/2014 01:35 AM, ENWP Pine wrote:
Happy new year, EE.
How is the Newsletter extension coming along? The most recent
discussion
on the talk page appears to be from September.
I don't think anyone is currently working on this. Siebrand and Quim started https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Newsletter , but there has only been one commit.
When MassMessage appeared I thought it could be worth trying to find a way to extend it satisfying the needs of newsletter publishers and subscribers. For instance, see
Bug 57935 - Handling MassMessage subscription through user preferences https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57935
Bug 57937 - Option to subscribe new users to MassMessage by default https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57937
Bug 57473 - MassMessage should support using a category as an input list https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57473
However, according to Legoktm this might be a too long shot.
Another possibility (probably the right one, but afaik nobody is working in this direction) is to have a pure Echo plugin with an interface to handle subscriptions, channels, and a couple of roles.
I still think Wikimedia and the MediaWiki community will benefit a lot from this feature...
On 01/21/2014 04:46 PM, Quim Gil wrote:
On 01/19/2014 01:36 PM, ENWP Pine wrote:
Quim is this something that could be completed this calendar year? Would it need to be in the next Annual Plan?
Having no budget and not being at the Product or Features teams, it is very easy for me to speak. :) :((
So far Newsletters don't seem to be in any WMF roadmap and I have no intention (neither good arguments) to challenge the current plans.
Then again, this looks like a project that could be developed by someone else independently. Maybe this is a good GSoC / OPW project? If a technical mentor is interested, I would be happy volunteering as product mentor - tester - community liaison - stakeholder - younameit.
The time to collect GSoC 2014 project proposals is now, see
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2014
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2014-February/074277.html
Guillaume and me think that this feature would be extremely beneficial to improve the communication of Wikimedia and MediaWiki projects. If a developer volunteers as mentor, we are happy to help co-mentoring from the product / community sides.
With Newsletters and Flow evolved, many MediaWikis could start forgetting about outsourcing their most basic communication to Mailman.
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 21:39:40 -0800 From: Quim Gil qgil@wikimedia.org To: ee@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [EE] Newsletters Message-ID: 52D37C1C.2000905@wikimedia.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi,
On 01/06/2014 09:00 AM, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
On 01/04/2014 01:35 AM, ENWP Pine wrote:
Happy new year, EE.
How is the Newsletter extension coming along? The most recent
discussion
on the talk page appears to be from September.
I don't think anyone is currently working on this. Siebrand and Quim started https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Newsletter , but there has only been one commit.
When MassMessage appeared I thought it could be worth trying to find a way to extend it satisfying the needs of newsletter publishers and subscribers. For instance, see
Bug 57935 - Handling MassMessage subscription through user preferences https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57935
Bug 57937 - Option to subscribe new users to MassMessage by default https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57937
Bug 57473 - MassMessage should support using a category as an input list https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57473
However, according to Legoktm this might be a too long shot.
Another possibility (probably the right one, but afaik nobody is working in this direction) is to have a pure Echo plugin with an interface to handle subscriptions, channels, and a couple of roles.
I still think Wikimedia and the MediaWiki community will benefit a lot from this feature...