Happy new year, EE.
How is the Newsletter extension coming along? The most recent discussion on the talk page appears to be from September.
Thanks,
Pine
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:01:07 -0700 From: Quim Gil qgil@wikimedia.org To: ee@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [EE] Newsletters Message-ID: 5239F873.9050904@wikimedia.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
On 09/17/2013 12:40 PM, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
On 09/17/2013 01:19 PM, Quim Gil wrote:
Do you think that the amount and complexity of work of
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Newsletter
fits with an internship or an Individual Engagement Grant project (3 months of one person approx)
Hard to say. It depends on:
- how well architected it is
- how integrated it is into Echo and Flow (of course, before the project
is funded, it would be good to check on how it relates to their current roadmap, but it may be it makes sense for planning to adopt Flow late)
- how much of the wishlist is considered hard requirements
- last, but not least, how experienced the developer is with the MW
codebase and Wikimedia community
If they have at least some experience with the MW code base and Wikimedia community, they can probably delivery something useful in three months. How it fits into a bigger roadmap is another story.
Ok, so we seem to have these sequential questions:
- Do the Echo / Flow / Core Features / Growth teams think that a
Newsletters extension is compatible with their plans or is there a reason to block it?
- Is there someone willing to mentor or provide technical guidance for
this project?
- Can this project be sliced in a way that an internship / IEG project
could deliver a solid first version?
Let's find the answer to 1 first.
PS: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43840 seems to be a good report related to this discussion. Otherwise I will create one.
-- Quim Gil Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 14:23:09 -0700 From: Steven Walling swalling@wikimedia.org To: Editor Engagement ee@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [EE] Newsletters Message-ID: CAMryOMU0zZr5SeyuPOmPP2ncUU5AwcNX6wt33rxBYQanDLsb-w@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Quim Gil qgil@wikimedia.org wrote:
- Do the Echo / Flow / Core Features / Growth teams think that a
Newsletters extension is compatible with their plans or is there a reason to block it?
The only reason to block this is if it did not deliver newsletters in a way compatible with Echo and Flow. Otherwise it's a great idea, much desired by the community in a variety of use cases (WikiProjects, Tech News, etc.). I say go for it.
-- Steven Walling https://wikimediafoundation.org/
On 01/04/2014 01:35 AM, ENWP Pine wrote:
Happy new year, EE.
How is the Newsletter extension coming along? The most recent discussion on the talk page appears to be from September.
I don't think anyone is currently working on this. Siebrand and Quim started https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Newsletter , but there has only been one commit.
Matt Flaschen
Hi,
On 01/06/2014 09:00 AM, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
On 01/04/2014 01:35 AM, ENWP Pine wrote:
Happy new year, EE.
How is the Newsletter extension coming along? The most recent discussion on the talk page appears to be from September.
I don't think anyone is currently working on this. Siebrand and Quim started https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Newsletter , but there has only been one commit.
When MassMessage appeared I thought it could be worth trying to find a way to extend it satisfying the needs of newsletter publishers and subscribers. For instance, see
Bug 57935 - Handling MassMessage subscription through user preferences https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57935
Bug 57937 - Option to subscribe new users to MassMessage by default https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57937
Bug 57473 - MassMessage should support using a category as an input list https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57473
However, according to Legoktm this might be a too long shot.
Another possibility (probably the right one, but afaik nobody is working in this direction) is to have a pure Echo plugin with an interface to handle subscriptions, channels, and a couple of roles.
I still think Wikimedia and the MediaWiki community will benefit a lot from this feature...