Hey great work!
Two constructive visual comments.
I think the 'see more' bar with the jagged edges looks a bit tattered. I would prefer something round or square or a triangle edge.
My big issue with the liquid threads model and through to this prototype is how vertically inefficient they look compared to standard existing talk pages. I'd like to see if we could tighten up the spacing, move buttons, etc. to make each comment more vertically compact. I think this is really important. Every line that's not fully utilized means more scrolling. Every bit of spacing that's not really needed means more scrolling.
Looking forward to seeing the rest of the demo evolve!
Jake (Ocaasi)
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- Re: [Product] [Design] Flow Prototype (Fabrice Florin)
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Message: 1 Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 09:34:54 -0700 From: Fabrice Florin fflorin@wikimedia.org To: WMF Product Team wmfproduct@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: "A list for the design team." design@lists.wikimedia.org, WMF Editor Engagement Team ee@lists.wikimedia.org, Philippe Beaudette pbeaudette@wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [EE] [Product] [Design] Flow Prototype Message-ID: 756B3D12-5322-4427-B4F8-86D2F4C30F0F@wikimedia.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
Hi Brandon,
I just want to say this prototype is **awesome!**.
I have been so busy on Echo that I haven't been able to pay as much attention to this prototype as I'd like, but I am really, really impressed with all the great progress you've made in recent weeks. It seems herculean, both in scope and quality.
Kudos, man!
I hope the community likes it as much as I do.
Look forward to attending the chat today at 11am PT -- and debriefing with you on Friday …
BTW, I found it hilarious that you put words in my mouth to show my fictional comments history for this prototype -- you were actually really close to my character, expressing gratitude profusely, as I'm prone to do. So this is as much a work of art as a technical prowess.
Godspeed!
Fabrice
On May 8, 2013, at 10:36 PM, Brandon Harris wrote:
Hello! I have released a new version of the Flow prototype into the wild.This will be the version that is discussed during office hours tomorrow.
The URL for the prototype has moved. It is now located at: http://unicorn.wmflabs.org/flow/ I have also created a page that explains what the prototype is andhow to use it. I will be updating the release notes there from now on and not posting to this list, so you should watch this page for changes:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Flow_Portal/lnteractive_Prototype
I'll include the latest release notes, though (mirrored on themw.org page):
=== May 9, 2013 ===
- Read posts are now only collapsed in the Feed views
- The "+Topic" button now reads "+New Message"
- Hide the "New message" button when in feed view
- Tag actions no longer work on unsubscribed topics
- Author metadata (edit count, etc.) can now be hidden from a tool in
the sidebar
- Posts by yourself now have a blue border instead of grey (h/t to TheDJ)
- Added in a "mention" example to the Echo flyout.
- Cleaned up the json file for Jimmy Wales' board with regard to post
depths.
- "Reply" buttons changed to mw-ui-constructive (green)
- Changed the green color of unread posts to match the reply button
color (avoid clashing)
- Going to a "Feed" view now removes any tabs. Returning to a board
shows the tabs again.
- Taglist section no longer displays if there are no tags
- In Feed view, topics on own board no longer include your username
- In Feed view, the sort of topics is NOT based on "last update time".
Instead:
** Topics that you are ''subscribed'' to are sorted by last update time; ** Topics that you are ''not'' subscribed to are sorted by create time. *** This more accurately reflects the behavior when you are subscribed
to a user but not every topic on their board
- Added a new sidebar section, "Back and Forths"
** This gives you a "masquerade" view, so that you can see what the same
topic will look like from the viewpoints of different users.
*** The first is ''your'' view. *** The second and third are the views of two other participants.
- In Board view, all topics are expanded by default (for easier
fast-scanning)
- Individual posts can be flagged as "abusive". This is the beginnings
of a workflow; actual anti-vandalism functionality will require more work.
- Removed the "Jorm Board" - it was a redundant view
=== May 4, 2013 ===
- Read posts in any thread are collapsed by default, with an indicator
to open all of them up.
** Posts are not collapsed if the thread is collapsed ** Collapse sections is an all-or-nothing deal ** You cannot "re-collapse" read posts. Adding a control to every post
is too heavy
** Collapsing a thread will uncollapse all posts inside of it and remove
the indicator
*** Reopening the thread will expand all posts
- On start up, a modal appears asking you for your user name.
** The form saves it and operates as "that person" from then on. ** This is saved to a cookie, which prevents the modal from opening in
the future
**There is a "clear saved username" link on the side.
- The feed link now treats itself as if it were the "logged in" user and
does some replacing on text to imply that the conversations are happening with them (and not the original owner of the posts)
Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation
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