EE

ee@lists.wikimedia.org

502 discussions

Presentation on editor population trends and influences
by ENWP Pine 19 Jul '13

19 Jul '13

For those who have not seen it, I recommend watching the 11 July 2013 WMF metrics meeting. Erik and other WMF employees gave a very interesting presentation. Video and some slides are linked on https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetings/2013-07-11. Pine

2 1

Software updates from the Editor Engagement Experiments team today
by Steven Walling 19 Jul '13

19 Jul '13

Hey all, here's the shortlist of what we deployed today. :) - Guided tours now has full support for VisualEditor tours. Among other things, we plan on next building a simple tour to accompany the VE rollout, informing editors that they are using a new editor the first time they click 'Edit' on a wiki where it has been switched to use VE instead of the source editor. - Along with the above, the GettingStarted tour now works with VE, including not showing the navigation bar on VE edit mode. (Showing it would conflict with the new editing toolbar.) - We updated also GettingStarted to work properly with the new cross-wiki login system, aka SUL or CentralAuth. (More on this in a second email, since it impacts several other projects.) -- Steven Walling https://wikimediafoundation.org/

1 0

Join our IRC Chat on Multimedia- Today at 18:00 UTC (11am PDT)
by Fabrice Florin 18 Jul '13

18 Jul '13

Hi folks, If you are interested in multimedia, we invite you to join our community IRC chat today at 18:00 UTC (11:00am PDT), on this 'office hours' channel: #wikimedia-office . Our new multimedia team is hosting this one-hour chat to discuss our plans and first feature ideas with community members from Wikipedia, Commons and other wiki projects. You can read more about our current plans here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multimedia During this chat, we will ask you how we can improve your multimedia workflows, as well as discuss these new feature ideas: • Media Viewer • File Notifications • File Feedback * New Gallery Layout To learn more about these projects, visit this feature ideas page -- where you are welcome to add comments: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multimedia/Feature_ideas Please RSVP here if you plan to join the chat, so we know how many people to expect: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Join_an_IRC_Chat_abo… Even if you can't join this IRC chat, we'd be grateful if you could spread the word in your community, so we can attract a good mix of Commonists and Wikipedians to help us plan our next steps for this important program. Thanks for your interest. We hope to speak with you soon! All the best, Fabrice and the Multimedia Team P.S.: For more info on how to join this IRC chat, check this IRC office hours page: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours _______________________________ Fabrice Florin Product Manager, Multimedia Wikimedia Foundation fflorin(a)wikimedia.org Wikipedia Profile: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fabrice_Florin_(WMF)

2 2

Join our IRC Chat on Multimedia this Thursday
by Fabrice Florin 17 Jul '13

17 Jul '13

Hi folks, We would like to invite you to join a community IRC chat which we're hosting this Thursday, July 18th, at 18:00 UTC (11:00am PDT), on this 'office hours' channel: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours#Upcoming_office_hours This one-hour online discussion will bring together community members and the foundation's new multimedia team to discuss our next steps for a better, media-rich experience on Wikipedia and Commons. During this chat, we will ask you how we can improve multimedia on our sites, as well as discuss these new feature ideas: • Media Viewer • File Notifications • File Feedback * New Gallery Layout If you are interested in multimedia and have had any experience uploading media files, curating them or placing them on articles, we would love to hear from you. Please RSVP here if you are interested in joining, so we know how many people to expect: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Join_an_IRC_Chat_abo… Even if you can't join this IRC chat, we'd be grateful if you could spread the word in your community, so we can attract a good mix of Commonists and Wikipedians to help us plan our next steps. To that end, I would be grateful for any suggestions of constructive users whom you think should be invited to join this or future multimedia discussions. Thanks for your interest. Hope to speak with you soon! All the best, Fabrice and the Multimedia Team _______________________________ Fabrice Florin Product Manager, Multimedia Wikimedia Foundation fflorin(a)wikimedia.org Wikipedia Profile: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fabrice_Florin_(WMF)

1 0

Re: [EE] [Wiki-research-l] Recruiting gamers to edit Wikimedia
by Quiddity 16 Jul '13

16 Jul '13

On 13-07-15 12:04 PM, Luca de Alfaro wrote: > Somehow I am not convinced that the game experience is a good match for > Wikipedia. > > In games, you try to do all "in game", so that your attention is fully > devoted to the game. > > To contribute effectively to Wikipedia, you need instead to do quite a > bit of research outside of Wikipedia, and then write the contribution > including the citations. > > These seem to be very different kinds of activities. I am sure we could > get people playing the games of "Nobody reverts as fast as I do" (or > better, "the guy that reverts faster than his shadow", see if you know > what I am citing), or "who puts the most links to other language pages", > ... but I doubt we would be as successful with content creation. > > Luca > There are many laborious tasks that don't require much outside research. Eg. fixing links within articles, that point to disambiguation pages. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Disambiguation_pages_with_links Some of these collections of projects, are probably highly-gamifiable: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Active_Wiki_Fixup_Projects http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Category_tracker#Cleanup (Eg. uncategorised articles) And of course for certain types of people, researching the validity of a citation, or finding a citation to support a disputed statement, can also be fun. (But requires a lot more knowledge of our WP:RS/etc policies and guidelines.) Prose-writing would indeed be a hard task to gamify explicitly... but making learning and research enjoyable, is partially just about changing someone's perspectives and interior monologues. Quiddity

2 1

Re: [EE] Recruiting gamers to edit Wikimedia
by ENWP Pine 15 Jul '13

15 Jul '13

Hi Quim and Sarah, I should have worded my question more precisely. I'm asking what Wikimedia could do to recruit people who play video games on various platforms and in various types of games (casual, FPS, MMPORG, and so on) so that they convert the time they currently use for gaming into time spent contributing to Wikimedia projects of any kind or subject rather than on the important but narrower subject of video games. For example, what would it take to convert people who currently play crossword puzzles or Scrabble on their smartphones into editors of Wiktionary? What would it take to convert people who play geocaching into photo contributors to Commons? What would it take to convert FPS gamers into NPP or anti-vandalism editors? The people on the Research list are generating a lot of good discussion about gamification within Wikimedia to encourage more and higher quality participation, and we're also discussing how to recruit gamers to become new Wikimedia contributors. Please come over to the thread on Research-l and let's continue talking there. (: Pine > Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2013 07:31:17 -0700 > From: Quim Gil <qgil(a)wikimedia.org> > To: ee(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [EE] Recruiting gamers to edit Wikimedia > Message-ID: <51D6D8B5.4040904(a)wikimedia.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > On 07/04/2013 12:46 PM, ENWP Pine wrote: > > I've asked these questions in other ways and places and I'd like to hear > > what other people on the Research and EE lists think. > > > > There are many video game players of diverse ages, genders, languages, > > and locations. How could Wikimedia editing be made into an appealing > > activity for people who are currently video gamers? How could Wikimedia > > market itself to gamers, including console, LAN, FPS, MMORPG, and mobile > > gamers? > > Have you asked at > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games ? > > (as an outsider) I would say that gaming in general is pretty well > covered, at least in comparison with other areas of knowledge. Or what > would be the reason to target gamers? > > Editing per se is not the problem. There is no lack of gamers using > wikis (and MediaWiki!) e.g. http://www.wikia.com/ or > http://www.minecraftwiki.net/ . The average gamer probably gets the idea > of crowdsourcing knowledge pretty well. Those wikis are community wikis > though, as an editor you won't need to deal (much) with relevance, > references, POV, essay, etc. I don't know what are the conditions to > upload copyrighted content but probably these wikis are more permissive > than Wikimedia's. > > Well, I guess http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Move_to_gaming_wiki > exists for a reason. Maybe if we would send gamers (also) to > http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Subject:Games we could keep a bit more > talent around... > > -- > Quim Gil > Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil > > > Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 08:26:14 -0700 > From: Sarah Stierch <sstierch(a)wikimedia.org> > To: WMF Editor Engagement Team <ee(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [EE] Recruiting gamers to edit Wikimedia > Message-ID: > <CAFk0ehVOcyV-N5KMchop-C0r7wY649adXMDHg5U+CVbjGhaVPw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi, > > And yes, if you're interested in engaging (or re engaging) with people > already in the community or who don't edit as frequently perhaps, you can > contact people who have userboxes on English Wikipedia saying they are into > video games: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Userboxes/Games/Video_games > > I do this for women's history projects and programs. I either use > EdwardsBot and spam them with a template inviting them to something or > whatever, or invite them individually (more time consuming of course). > > Sarah > > > On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Quim Gil <qgil(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > > > On 07/04/2013 12:46 PM, ENWP Pine wrote: > > > >> I've asked these questions in other ways and places and I'd like to hear > >> what other people on the Research and EE lists think. > >> > >> There are many video game players of diverse ages, genders, languages, > >> and locations. How could Wikimedia editing be made into an appealing > >> activity for people who are currently video gamers? How could Wikimedia > >> market itself to gamers, including console, LAN, FPS, MMORPG, and mobile > >> gamers? > >> > > > > Have you asked at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/** > > Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_**games<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games>? > > > > (as an outsider) I would say that gaming in general is pretty well > > covered, at least in comparison with other areas of knowledge. Or what > > would be the reason to target gamers? > > > > Editing per se is not the problem. There is no lack of gamers using wikis > > (and MediaWiki!) e.g. http://www.wikia.com/ or > > http://www.minecraftwiki.net/ . The average gamer probably gets the idea > > of crowdsourcing knowledge pretty well. Those wikis are community wikis > > though, as an editor you won't need to deal (much) with relevance, > > references, POV, essay, etc. I don't know what are the conditions to upload > > copyrighted content but probably these wikis are more permissive than > > Wikimedia's. > > > > Well, I guess http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Template:Move_to_gaming_wiki<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Move_to_gaming_wiki>exists for a reason. Maybe if we would send gamers (also) to > > http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/**Subject:Games<http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Subject:Games>we could keep a bit more talent around... > > > > -- > > Quim Gil > > Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation > > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/**User:Qgil<http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil> > > > > ______________________________**_________________ > > EE mailing list > > EE(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/ee<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee> > > > > > > -- > *Sarah Stierch** > Wikimedia Foundation Program Evaluation & Design Community Coordinator > *Donate<http://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Donate/en&utm_source=&utm_…>today > and keep it free! > > Visit me on Wikipedia <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SarahStierch>!

6 5

Community Roundtables
by Fabrice Florin 13 Jul '13

13 Jul '13

Hi folks, A few weeks ago, our product group started a new editor engagement program we call Roundtables, to improve our software tools with community participation. The goal of this experimental program is to create better user experiences through focused, small group discussions between members of the Wikipedia and MediaWiki communities and Wikimedia product teams. We aim to build closer closer collaborations with our community, through face-to-face meetings and video conferences that can augment text-only communication channels to solve complex issues through real-time, high-bandwidth conversations. So far, we have found this roundtable process to be incredibly helpful for our teams. This convivial approach seems to be a promising new way to collaborate with community members and inform our product development. In coming weeks, we will write a more in-depth report on our findings and will keep you posted on our next steps with this program. For now, here are our preliminary reports on the first two roundtables: • Roundtable on Editor Engagement - Wikimedia Foundation - June 22, 2013 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Roundtables/Roundtable_1 • Roundtable on Multimedia - Google Hangouts - July 10, 2013 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Roundtables/Roundtable_2 The first roundtable on engagement was a daylong face-to-face discussion in San Francisco, while the second roundtable on multimedia was hosted virtually, over Google Hangouts. Both approaches seemed effective in their own ways, and we are now evaluating the pros and cons of each collaboration method. Next, we plan to host two more roundtables at Wikimania 2013 in Hong Kong this summer: * Roundtable on Multimedia - Wikimania 2013 - August 8, 2013 http://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Multimedia_Roundtable * Roundtable on Flow (Discussions and Messaging) - Wikimania 2013 - August 9, 2013 http://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Roundtable_on_Messaging… You are welcome to sign up for the second roundtable about Flow on the Wikimania page. (The Multimedia roundtable is nearly full, and we would like to keep it up to a dozen participants, but the Flow roundtable still has room for more participants.) And be sure to add this Roundtable page to your watchlist, to learn more about future events: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Roundtables We want to make it clear that this Roundtable program is intended to complement existing talk page discussions and IRC chats, not to replace them. It helps our product teams to have focused discussions with small groups of contributors, but we will continue to interact with our community through existing channels. I would like to take this opportunity to thank all the community participants who joined our first roundtables, as well as the many team members who made them possible, including Howie, Maryana, Brandon, Brian, Mark, Robla, Jared, Erik, Steven, Asaf, Chip, James, Siko, Oliver and Philippe, to name but a few. To be continued! All the best, Fabrice _______________________________ Fabrice Florin Product Manager Wikimedia Foundation +1 (415) 860-6484 fflorin(a)wikimedia.org Wikipedia Profile: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fabrice_Florin_(WMF)

1 0

Feature updates from editor engagement experiments today
by Steven Walling 12 Jul '13

12 Jul '13

Hi all, Quick rundown of the changes we deployed today... - We disabled the "micro-survey" of the gender of new accounts on enwiki, and enabled the same survey on frwiki, dewiki, plwiki, and itwiki. This survey will run for two weeks on those Wikipedias.[1] - As a requirement of the above survey, we added guided tours extension to plwiki and itwiki (it was already on the others). The test tour and others may not be fully localized yet for Italian or Polish, but only the gender survey is being delivered via default. - We also enabled VisualEditor EventLogging on these other wikis to capture the survey data. This also means that edit data for VisualEditor will be captured per Schema:Edit [2]. 1. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Gender_micro-survey 2. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Schema:Edit -- Steven Walling https://wikimediafoundation.org/

2 3

Information campaign on French Wikipedia
by Benoît Evellin 11 Jul '13

11 Jul '13

Hello ee team ! Since Saturday night and during all summer, an information campaign about Wikipedia is displayed to anonymous users on frwp. We are trying to answer simple questions about Wikipedia mechanism and rules. Six different points are shown to the public : * If Wikipedia is free, am I free to write anything ? * Can my firm have his article ? * Is Wikipedia the perfect place to write everything I know ? * As an artist, can I talk about me on Wikipedia ? * On Wikipedia, can I correct a mistake ? * Can I copy on Wikipedia information from elswhere ? These questions were slected from the experience of Partol on Recent Changes, training sessions, discussions with the public, etc. All six are critical points that we always have to repeat to newbies. In order to stay concise, we have created a short answer, which is easy to read and is not skipped. they were not easy to write ! After the answer, we offer links in order to discover Wikimedia more deeply. We also collect feedbacks, which are, as usual, fifty/fifty shared between "keep it going [Wikipedia/this campaign]" or "kick this *** off my screen/Wikipedia is a shame". I invite you to discover this campaign by the links above, and hope to share a feedback on this experience during Wikimania. Feedbacks are welcome ! :-) * French Wikipedia homepage : http://fr.wikipedia.org (in French) * The six messages https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projet:Aide_et_accueil/Campagne (in French) * The Help and Welcope wiki-project actions https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projet:Aide_et_accueil/English_summary (in English) With my apologies for my English. -- Benoît Evellin Wikimédia France Volunteer www.wikimedia.fr

2 1

Recruiting gamers to edit Wikimedia
by ENWP Pine 05 Jul '13

05 Jul '13

I've asked these questions in other ways and places and I'd like to hear what other people on the Research and EE lists think. There are many video game players of diverse ages, genders, languages, and locations. How could Wikimedia editing be made into an appealing activity for people who are currently video gamers? How could Wikimedia market itself to gamers, including console, LAN, FPS, MMORPG, and mobile gamers? Pine

3 2

← Newer
1
...
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
...
51
Older →

Jump to page:

2024

2023

2022

2021

2020

2019

2018

2017

2016

2015

2014

2013

EE