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Re: [EE] Data purges from email archives (retitled thread)
by Pine W 12 Dec '14

12 Dec '14

There have indeed been bad experiences in the past with attempting to purge archived emails, and even if purges could be done cleanly on the public archives, the action would not remove the content from the automatic 3rd party archivers and the subscribed email accounts. It would be nice to have a solution to this kind of situation, and I hope that WMF will find one or make one. Thanks to everyone who has or is working helpfully to address today's incident and related issues. Pine

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[Wikimedia Foundation] Update: Re: Justine, I’ll keep it short
by donate＠wikimedia.org 12 Dec '14

12 Dec '14

##- Please type your reply above this line -## [Wikimedia Foundation] Update: Re: Justine, I’ll keep it short You are registered as a cc on this help desk request and are thus receiving email notifications on all updates to the request. Reply to this email to add a comment to the request. ---------------------------------------------- Pine W, Dec 11 11:21 AM Hi Donor services, I'm confused. EE is a public email list. Why would a donor's name and email content be sent here? Did the donor consent to this? Also, what was the purpose of sending this email to EE? This appears to have been some kind of mistake. Thanks, Pine ---------------------------------------------- Andrey Valkov, Dec 11 05:50 AM Hi Justine, Thank you for your email. The Wikimedia Foundation does not actually manage or contribute to the editorial content of Wikipedia or our other projects. We are here primarily to provide infrastructure and support the tens of thousands of volunteers around the world who edit and contribute everyday. If you need help with an edit, you'd want to email info(a)wikimedia.org. This email address is answered by longtime project volunteers, and they can help with your question. Sincerely, Andrey Valkov Donor Services Associate Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. wikimediafoundation.org Support us! https://donate.wikimedia.org ---------------------------------------------- Justine Tenzeldam, Dec 05 12:30 PM OK. I'll consider a donation. And, if Wikipedia Editors can become more helpful and accommodating to folks like me, perhaps I'll consider more! (Trying to participate is downright painful right now.) Best Regards,Justine tenZeldam510.447.9435 (talk/txt)www.solongsuburbs.comwww.justine.webstarts.comwww.twitter.com/just… On Friday, December 5, 2014 10:34 AM, "Jimmy Wales, Wikipedia" <donate(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: #yiv5329025495 p {margin:1em 0;}#yiv5329025495 #yiv5329025495outlook a{padding:0;}#yiv5329025495 .yiv5329025495ReadMsgBody{width:100%;}#yiv5329025495 .yiv5329025495ExternalClass{width:100%;}#yiv5329025495 body{}#yiv5329025495 .yiv5329025495appleLinks a {color:rgb(0, 0, 0);text-decoration:none;} Dear Justine, Thank you for helping keep Wikipedia online and ad-free. I’m sure you’re busy, so I’ll get right to it. We need your help again this year. Please help us forget about fundraising and get back to improving Wikipedia. If all our past donors simply gave again today, we wouldn't have to worry about fundraising for the rest of the year. We are the small non-profit that runs one of the top 10 websites in the world. We only have about 200 staff but serve 500 million users, and have costs like any other top site: servers, power, programs, and people. Wikipedia is something special. It is like a library or a public park. It is like a temple for the mind, a place we can all go to think and learn. To protect our independence, we'll never run ads. We take no government funds. We survive on donations from our readers. Now is the time we ask. If Wikipedia is useful to you, please take one minute to keep it online and ad-free another year. https://donate.wikimedia.org Thanks, Jimmy Wales Wikipedia Founder | | DONATE NOW » | | You are receiving this email at justinejobsearch(a)gmail.com as a valued donor of the Wikimedia Foundation. If you do not wish to receive any future emails from the Wikimedia Foundation, unsubscribe instantly. Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. P.O. Box 98204 Washington, DC 20090-8204 United States of America enUS14 -------------------------------- This email is a service from Wikimedia Foundation. [8G43-DP57]

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Collaboration Team scrum notes, Thurs Dec 11
by Danny Horn 11 Dec '14

11 Dec '14

*Matt*: Working on the stack of ToC patches, almost done. Expects to be able to work on gap handling by Monday. Event-logging -- send beacon didn't work on production; there was a problem with the schema. Made a couple fixes and deployed them, it's working now. 2 important bug fixes -- fixing JS on mobile, and notifications not showing up in Echo. *Erik*: Yesterday - looking at Co-op approval rights, the best solution is under discussion. Bug triage -- fixed 8 bugs, triaged more. Going to start looking at a ToC pagination problem in the master branch. Will figure this out today. Working on the links issue on Catalan WP -- it's an issue with subpages and accents. We can cherrypick and release. *Matthias*: Working on the search back-end maintenance script, should get it to the point of being able to run the script by tomorrow. After this, we should have the back-end infrastructure in place for search. S suggested putting this on flow-tests or another Labs machine. Matthias says Nik or Chad should be able to help.

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[Wikimedia Foundation] Update: Re: Justine, I’ll keep it short
by donate＠wikimedia.org 11 Dec '14

11 Dec '14

##- Please type your reply above this line -## [Wikimedia Foundation] Update: Re: Justine, I’ll keep it short You are registered as a cc on this help desk request and are thus receiving email notifications on all updates to the request. Reply to this email to add a comment to the request. ---------------------------------------------- Andrey Valkov, Dec 11 05:50 AM Hi Justine, Thank you for your email. The Wikimedia Foundation does not actually manage or contribute to the editorial content of Wikipedia or our other projects. We are here primarily to provide infrastructure and support the tens of thousands of volunteers around the world who edit and contribute everyday. If you need help with an edit, you'd want to email info(a)wikimedia.org. This email address is answered by longtime project volunteers, and they can help with your question. Sincerely, Andrey Valkov Donor Services Associate Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. wikimediafoundation.org Support us! https://donate.wikimedia.org ---------------------------------------------- Justine Tenzeldam, Dec 05 12:30 PM OK. I'll consider a donation. And, if Wikipedia Editors can become more helpful and accommodating to folks like me, perhaps I'll consider more! (Trying to participate is downright painful right now.) Best Regards,Justine tenZeldam510.447.9435 (talk/txt)www.solongsuburbs.comwww.justine.webstarts.comwww.twitter.com/just… On Friday, December 5, 2014 10:34 AM, "Jimmy Wales, Wikipedia" <donate(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: #yiv5329025495 p {margin:1em 0;}#yiv5329025495 #yiv5329025495outlook a{padding:0;}#yiv5329025495 .yiv5329025495ReadMsgBody{width:100%;}#yiv5329025495 .yiv5329025495ExternalClass{width:100%;}#yiv5329025495 body{}#yiv5329025495 .yiv5329025495appleLinks a {color:rgb(0, 0, 0);text-decoration:none;} Dear Justine, Thank you for helping keep Wikipedia online and ad-free. I’m sure you’re busy, so I’ll get right to it. We need your help again this year. Please help us forget about fundraising and get back to improving Wikipedia. If all our past donors simply gave again today, we wouldn't have to worry about fundraising for the rest of the year. We are the small non-profit that runs one of the top 10 websites in the world. We only have about 200 staff but serve 500 million users, and have costs like any other top site: servers, power, programs, and people. Wikipedia is something special. It is like a library or a public park. It is like a temple for the mind, a place we can all go to think and learn. To protect our independence, we'll never run ads. We take no government funds. We survive on donations from our readers. Now is the time we ask. If Wikipedia is useful to you, please take one minute to keep it online and ad-free another year. https://donate.wikimedia.org Thanks, Jimmy Wales Wikipedia Founder | | DONATE NOW » | | You are receiving this email at justinejobsearch(a)gmail.com as a valued donor of the Wikimedia Foundation. If you do not wish to receive any future emails from the Wikimedia Foundation, unsubscribe instantly. Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. P.O. Box 98204 Washington, DC 20090-8204 United States of America enUS14 -------------------------------- This email is a service from Wikimedia Foundation. [8G43-DP57]

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Collaboration Team notes, Wed Dec 10
by Danny Horn 10 Dec '14

10 Dec '14

Yesterday: Finished the OfficeWiki talk page conversion, and deployed on 4 Catalan WP pages. Hooray! *Erik*: OfficeWiki talk conversion done! A couple bugs, but not too bad -- they'll be fixed. Wrote the queries for FlowReplies data *Matt*: Finished Echo bug, in code review (Nick asked for backport, Matt will schedule one) Put up fix for Flow mobile JS breakage Reviewed ToC load more revamp Today: Work on ToC, still reviewing Shahyar's stack of patches *Matthias*: More patches for CirrusSearch -- got one from Nik that had to be worked on Working on Search configuration of namespace Started bug triage effort

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Collab Team scrum notes, Tues Dec 9
by Danny Horn 09 Dec '14

09 Dec '14

*Erik*: Patch for the Co-op is up, in code review. Wrote copy for Village pump to ask to grant this right -- it's up on a card for the team to check out. -- (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P130, linked from https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76785) S will help to figure out how to get wgContentModel enabled on enwiki. Started looking at FlowReplies schema. We've got the data we want tracked, but not the table that we want to see once the data's collected. Danny will write on Flow/Analytics. Erik will work on that today. *Matt*: Followed up on event-logging, got it merged -- it'll be deployed today. Reviewed an Echo change, and fixing bug that Flow messages aren't showing up in Echo. (T77956) Didn't have much time to work on the ToC, will resume that today. *S*: There are bugs related to a regression in the Echo interface -- the links between Messages and Alerts. It seems like an easy fix, just reinstating the fix that we did in September. Danny says we don't need design approval to fix the regression -- go ahead and fix it. :) *Matthias*: Worked on search (L108) today, more tomorrow.

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Collab Team scrum notes, Mon Dec 8
by Danny Horn 09 Dec '14

09 Dec '14

*Matt*: Reviewed and tested conversion patch. Followed up on event-logging patch. Reviewed and tested ToC. Found a problem with how pagination works, filed a bug. Will follow up on that today. Today: Includealso patch for ToC. Plans to finish with current stack of patches by end of day Wed. *Matthias*: Spent most of the day merging Search patches from Erik. Tomorrow: Working on L108 (search). *Erik*: Ran script on Friday to fix bug that was taking items out of Contributions. Css patches to remove !important at Krinkle's request. Reviewed Matthias' patch for event-logging. It's out now, on beta-labs. Started to work on Co-op ticket -- creating pages with Flow as the ContentModel, it might be going faster than expected. Getting permission for the bot on enwiki is the tricky part, still figuring that out. Talked about two bugs with Echo -- the Alerts/Messages tabs are unclear. Danny will look at what's going on, and send a question to Pau to help us resolve what the correct look and behavior should be.

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specifically Alerts · Messages in Echo flyout, and button groups/tabs standardization
by S Page 09 Dec '14

09 Dec '14

The Echo flyout has "Alerts (*NN*) · Messages (*NN*)" to switch between its two "panes". Somehow there has been a regression: a) They're both blue (T71929) so it's not clear which one you're viewing. b) If the flyout shows only "Alerts" (because you're not involved with any Flow boards) it's blue even though unclickable (T73733). The Collaboration team needs to fix this soon. The issue is whether Echo's flyout should move to the mediawiki.ui standard for tabs, and what that is. The Trello card for this is https://trello.com/c/F3SdIvRg/45-tabs-panes-panels . Mobile's Watchlist > Modified uses both a button group and a set of tabs (see the Trello card's attachment), there are pros and cons to each. Jared suggested using a button group for [Alerts (*NN*) | Messages (*NN*)] , but the current CSS for mediawiki.ui button group implementation doesn't seem to have the notion of the active/selected button. If we add mw-ui-progressive to mark the active button the way Mobile watchlist does, then the current unclickable state looks like a button, so it's back-to-front. I assigned Pau to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71929 , but there's seems a general UX standardization issue(s). I hope some guidelines come out of this. Thanks! -- =S Page Collaboration team engineer

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Flow feature: moving stuff into Edit
by svetlana 06 Dec '14

06 Dec '14

All, I was talking on-wiki about an important Flow feature which I feel should be the top priority since its early days. I don't see any progress. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:S3cdl3dfqf8brx18 — I would like to not expose people to the buttons such as "hide" or "delete" before they click "edit". -- svetlana

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Flow feature: refactoring
by svetlana 06 Dec '14

06 Dec '14

All, I was talking on-wiki about an important Flow feature which I feel should be the top priority since its early days. I don't see any progress. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:S12prb6trf24nhkz — make it possible for users to split, edit, re-assign author, indent, and move other users comments. This is necessary for backward compatibility and also for migration of classic talk pages to Flow. -- svetlana

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