Dear collab-orators,
since Stockholm I have been trying to help with the development of the Program&Events Dashboard https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/ which is, at some point, likely to replace the outdated Education Extension. Yesterday Amanda Bittaker (CC'ed) gave me a guided tour of the current state of dashboard and I had an opportunity to ask questions. I will also be taking part in biweekly calls with the developer team to make sure that the Dashboard development is going the right direction.
Some of you are probably already using it but most of the large country programs are not using it yet on a large scale. I think there is a lack of reliable and trustworthy information about the P&E Dashboard so let me give you an update what it does:
- Is is an open system letting *anyone *with a Wikipedia account log in and create his/her own course pages. There is nothing like userrights except for developer access - advantage: no barriers, - disadvantage: possible vandalism or trolling. - When you create a course page, you can send a link to this course page so that participants can log in. Students need to *fill in a "password" *- this can be publicly announced on the course page or entirely private - advantage: enables to "close" course for a desired group people only - disadvantage: participants have to overcome one more step when they want to enrol in the course - you can *create a course *by cloning one of your past course pages (not someone else's) or by starting a completely new page. In the course page set-up, you can choose your "home project" and "home language". - there is probably *no way to add "templates" to course pages*. For example, each our course page on Czech Wikipedia has a template which links to guidelines, helpdesk etc. - you can *edit the course page* if you are the creator or the creator has assigned you as the "facilitator" of the course. - advantage: preventing changes done by people who have no relationship or knowledge about the project - disadvantage: teachers creating course pages have to assign local coordinators as facilitators otherwise the facilitators cannot help them design the pages or curate them. This will lead to a load of e-mails saying "Can you please assign me as a facilitator to the course, sir?" - *creating campaigns (groups of courses)* is not available yet. It is not sure when it will be ready but hopefully before March. This is crucial to large country programs - we need to have a list of "our" projects. - advantage: you can include some information or links or training material to the individual course pages - disadvantage: anyone will be able to create campaigns - this will lead to a mess
Overall the Community Tech team has done a good job in recent months! Thanks for your work on this and especially for all you are planning to do. But we need more work before the large programs like ours are likely to use it on a large scale.
For more information please see this page https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech/Programs_%26_Events_Dashboard. You can give feedback on the discussion page there. This will be very useful for the developers who are eager to get some input, especially about the campaigns, according to Amanda.
Also I think we need to think about the *name of the dashboard* more... I cannot imagine telling our students to open browser and type *http://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/ http://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/ *- we should make a shortened version too with a catchy name than can be easily communicated without knowledge of English. My Phabricator ticket for this is here https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146332, without any comments for two months now.
I understand there will be some announcements coming from the Community Tech team in near future. I think this would be also useful to the education@lists.wikimedia.org people. There has been no official information about the Dashboard for months on that mailing list!
best,
Vojtěch Dostál
předseda rady / chair of the board Wikimedia Česká republika | http://www.wikimedia.cz Facebook https://www.facebook.com/Wikimedia.CR | Twitter https://twitter.com/Wikimedia_CR | Newsletter http://eepurl.com/b--eXr
Hi Vojtěch,
I really appreciate your update on the dashboard. I only started laborating with some of the student cohorts I have from the Education Program in Sweden, and I really need to learn more. And think of a good Swedish name for it before launching.
Thanks, Sara
2016-11-08 17:54 GMT+01:00 Vojtěch Dostál vojtech.dostal@wikimedia.cz:
Dear collab-orators,
since Stockholm I have been trying to help with the development of the Program&Events Dashboard https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/ which is, at some point, likely to replace the outdated Education Extension. Yesterday Amanda Bittaker (CC'ed) gave me a guided tour of the current state of dashboard and I had an opportunity to ask questions. I will also be taking part in biweekly calls with the developer team to make sure that the Dashboard development is going the right direction.
Some of you are probably already using it but most of the large country programs are not using it yet on a large scale. I think there is a lack of reliable and trustworthy information about the P&E Dashboard so let me give you an update what it does:
- Is is an open system letting *anyone *with a Wikipedia account log
in and create his/her own course pages. There is nothing like userrights except for developer access
- advantage: no barriers,
- disadvantage: possible vandalism or trolling.
- When you create a course page, you can send a link to this course
page so that participants can log in. Students need to *fill in a "password" *- this can be publicly announced on the course page or entirely private - advantage: enables to "close" course for a desired group people only - disadvantage: participants have to overcome one more step when they want to enrol in the course
- you can *create a course *by cloning one of your past course pages
(not someone else's) or by starting a completely new page. In the course page set-up, you can choose your "home project" and "home language". - there is probably *no way to add "templates" to course pages*. For example, each our course page on Czech Wikipedia has a template which links to guidelines, helpdesk etc. - you can *edit the course page* if you are the creator or the creator has assigned you as the "facilitator" of the course.
- advantage: preventing changes done by people who have no relationship or knowledge about the project
coordinators as facilitators otherwise the facilitators cannot help them design the pages or curate them. This will lead to a load of e-mails saying "Can you please assign me as a facilitator to the course, sir?"
- disadvantage: teachers creating course pages have to assign local
- *creating campaigns (groups of courses)* is not available yet. It is
not sure when it will be ready but hopefully before March. This is crucial to large country programs - we need to have a list of "our" projects.
- advantage: you can include some information or links or training material to the individual course pages
lead to a mess
- disadvantage: anyone will be able to create campaigns - this will
Overall the Community Tech team has done a good job in recent months! Thanks for your work on this and especially for all you are planning to do. But we need more work before the large programs like ours are likely to use it on a large scale.
For more information please see this page https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech/Programs_%26_Events_Dashboard. You can give feedback on the discussion page there. This will be very useful for the developers who are eager to get some input, especially about the campaigns, according to Amanda.
Also I think we need to think about the *name of the dashboard* more... I cannot imagine telling our students to open browser and type *http://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/ http://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/ *- we should make a shortened version too with a catchy name than can be easily communicated without knowledge of English. My Phabricator ticket for this is here https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146332, without any comments for two months now.
I understand there will be some announcements coming from the Community Tech team in near future. I think this would be also useful to the education@lists.wikimedia.org people. There has been no official information about the Dashboard for months on that mailing list!
best,
Vojtěch Dostál
předseda rady / chair of the board Wikimedia Česká republika | http://www.wikimedia.cz Facebook https://www.facebook.com/Wikimedia.CR | Twitter https://twitter.com/Wikimedia_CR | Newsletter http://eepurl.com/b--eXr
education-collab mailing list education-collab@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education-collab
Thanks for the update, Vojtěch! I'm also in the process of translating it all to Hebrew and will begin to work with it shorly as a pilot in two of my academic courses.
Cheers, Shani.
On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:07 PM, Sara Mörtsell sara.mortsell@wikimedia.se wrote:
Hi Vojtěch,
I really appreciate your update on the dashboard. I only started laborating with some of the student cohorts I have from the Education Program in Sweden, and I really need to learn more. And think of a good Swedish name for it before launching.
Thanks, Sara
2016-11-08 17:54 GMT+01:00 Vojtěch Dostál vojtech.dostal@wikimedia.cz:
Dear collab-orators,
since Stockholm I have been trying to help with the development of the Program&Events Dashboard https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/ which is, at some point, likely to replace the outdated Education Extension. Yesterday Amanda Bittaker (CC'ed) gave me a guided tour of the current state of dashboard and I had an opportunity to ask questions. I will also be taking part in biweekly calls with the developer team to make sure that the Dashboard development is going the right direction.
Some of you are probably already using it but most of the large country programs are not using it yet on a large scale. I think there is a lack of reliable and trustworthy information about the P&E Dashboard so let me give you an update what it does:
- Is is an open system letting *anyone *with a Wikipedia account log
in and create his/her own course pages. There is nothing like userrights except for developer access
- advantage: no barriers,
- disadvantage: possible vandalism or trolling.
- When you create a course page, you can send a link to this
course page so that participants can log in. Students need to *fill in a "password" *- this can be publicly announced on the course page or entirely private - advantage: enables to "close" course for a desired group people only - disadvantage: participants have to overcome one more step when they want to enrol in the course
- you can *create a course *by cloning one of your past course pages
(not someone else's) or by starting a completely new page. In the course page set-up, you can choose your "home project" and "home language". - there is probably *no way to add "templates" to course pages*. For example, each our course page on Czech Wikipedia has a template which links to guidelines, helpdesk etc. - you can *edit the course page* if you are the creator or the creator has assigned you as the "facilitator" of the course.
- advantage: preventing changes done by people who have no relationship or knowledge about the project
local coordinators as facilitators otherwise the facilitators cannot help them design the pages or curate them. This will lead to a load of e-mails saying "Can you please assign me as a facilitator to the course, sir?"
- disadvantage: teachers creating course pages have to assign
- *creating campaigns (groups of courses)* is not available yet. It
is not sure when it will be ready but hopefully before March. This is crucial to large country programs - we need to have a list of "our" projects.
- advantage: you can include some information or links or training material to the individual course pages
will lead to a mess
- disadvantage: anyone will be able to create campaigns - this
Overall the Community Tech team has done a good job in recent months! Thanks for your work on this and especially for all you are planning to do. But we need more work before the large programs like ours are likely to use it on a large scale.
For more information please see this page https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech/Programs_%26_Events_Dashboard. You can give feedback on the discussion page there. This will be very useful for the developers who are eager to get some input, especially about the campaigns, according to Amanda.
Also I think we need to think about the *name of the dashboard* more... I cannot imagine telling our students to open browser and type *http://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/ http://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/ *- we should make a shortened version too with a catchy name than can be easily communicated without knowledge of English. My Phabricator ticket for this is here https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146332, without any comments for two months now.
I understand there will be some announcements coming from the Community Tech team in near future. I think this would be also useful to the education@lists.wikimedia.org people. There has been no official information about the Dashboard for months on that mailing list!
best,
Vojtěch Dostál
předseda rady / chair of the board Wikimedia Česká republika | http://www.wikimedia.cz Facebook https://www.facebook.com/Wikimedia.CR | Twitter https://twitter.com/Wikimedia_CR | Newsletter http://eepurl.com/b--eXr
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Thanks Vojtěch!
On a related note, I started a proposal in the new Community Wishlist Survey for making the dashboard good enough for education programs to be a viable replacement for the EducationProgram extension: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2016_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Categories/Pr...
The current state of things is that the Community Tech team is working on the use case of edit-a-thon campaigns right now. Amanda and the Community Tech team have discussed the education program as a key use case for the future, but there aren't currently definite plans to prioritize that.
The work so far has been done on behalf of the Learning & Engagement team that is Amanda is part of. But the main focus of the Community Tech team is to work on community-identified projects from the wishlist survey. Feel free to edit the proposal I started. If dashboard improvements end up highly supported in the survey, it's much more likely to receive developer attention from WMF next year.
-Sage
On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Shani shani.even@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for the update, Vojtěch! I'm also in the process of translating it all to Hebrew and will begin to work with it shorly as a pilot in two of my academic courses.
Cheers, Shani.
On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:07 PM, Sara Mörtsell sara.mortsell@wikimedia.se wrote:
Hi Vojtěch,
I really appreciate your update on the dashboard. I only started laborating with some of the student cohorts I have from the Education Program in Sweden, and I really need to learn more. And think of a good Swedish name for it before launching.
Thanks, Sara
2016-11-08 17:54 GMT+01:00 Vojtěch Dostál vojtech.dostal@wikimedia.cz:
Dear collab-orators,
since Stockholm I have been trying to help with the development of the Program&Events Dashboard which is, at some point, likely to replace the outdated Education Extension. Yesterday Amanda Bittaker (CC'ed) gave me a guided tour of the current state of dashboard and I had an opportunity to ask questions. I will also be taking part in biweekly calls with the developer team to make sure that the Dashboard development is going the right direction.
Some of you are probably already using it but most of the large country programs are not using it yet on a large scale. I think there is a lack of reliable and trustworthy information about the P&E Dashboard so let me give you an update what it does:
Is is an open system letting anyone with a Wikipedia account log in and create his/her own course pages. There is nothing like userrights except for developer access
advantage: no barriers, disadvantage: possible vandalism or trolling.
When you create a course page, you can send a link to this course page so that participants can log in. Students need to fill in a "password" - this can be publicly announced on the course page or entirely private
advantage: enables to "close" course for a desired group people only disadvantage: participants have to overcome one more step when they want to enrol in the course
you can create a course by cloning one of your past course pages (not someone else's) or by starting a completely new page. In the course page set-up, you can choose your "home project" and "home language".
there is probably no way to add "templates" to course pages. For example, each our course page on Czech Wikipedia has a template which links to guidelines, helpdesk etc.
you can edit the course page if you are the creator or the creator has assigned you as the "facilitator" of the course.
advantage: preventing changes done by people who have no relationship or knowledge about the project disadvantage: teachers creating course pages have to assign local coordinators as facilitators otherwise the facilitators cannot help them design the pages or curate them. This will lead to a load of e-mails saying "Can you please assign me as a facilitator to the course, sir?"
creating campaigns (groups of courses) is not available yet. It is not sure when it will be ready but hopefully before March. This is crucial to large country programs - we need to have a list of "our" projects.
advantage: you can include some information or links or training material to the individual course pages disadvantage: anyone will be able to create campaigns - this will lead to a mess
Overall the Community Tech team has done a good job in recent months! Thanks for your work on this and especially for all you are planning to do. But we need more work before the large programs like ours are likely to use it on a large scale.
For more information please see this page. You can give feedback on the discussion page there. This will be very useful for the developers who are eager to get some input, especially about the campaigns, according to Amanda.
Also I think we need to think about the name of the dashboard more... I cannot imagine telling our students to open browser and type http://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/ - we should make a shortened version too with a catchy name than can be easily communicated without knowledge of English. My Phabricator ticket for this is here, without any comments for two months now.
I understand there will be some announcements coming from the Community Tech team in near future.
I think this would be also useful to the education@lists.wikimedia.org people. There has been no official information about the Dashboard for months on that mailing list!
best,
Vojtěch Dostál
předseda rady / chair of the board Wikimedia Česká republika | http://www.wikimedia.cz Facebook | Twitter | Newsletter
education-collab mailing list education-collab@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education-collab
--
Med vänliga hälsningar, Sara Mörtsell
Sara Mörtsell | Education Manager, Wikimedia Sverige sara.mortsell@wikimedia.se | +4673-383 26 70
Stöd fri kunskap genom att bli medlem!
education-collab mailing list education-collab@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education-collab
education-collab mailing list education-collab@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education-collab
If dashboard improvements end up highly supported in the survey, it's much more likely to receive developer attention from WMF next year.
Excellent reminder, and thanks for starting the proposal Sage! My team's biggest push was getting the Dashboard usable for any Wikimedia project in any language, and now we are working on campaigns, but there is still a ton that could be done for education and other programs. The WMF currently does not have any plans to dedicate Engineering time to further features. Refining and supporting this proposal could make the difference.
Cheers, Amanda
On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Sage Ross sage@wikiedu.org wrote:
Thanks Vojtěch!
On a related note, I started a proposal in the new Community Wishlist Survey for making the dashboard good enough for education programs to be a viable replacement for the EducationProgram extension: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2016_Community_Wishlist_ Survey/Categories/Programs_and_events
The current state of things is that the Community Tech team is working on the use case of edit-a-thon campaigns right now. Amanda and the Community Tech team have discussed the education program as a key use case for the future, but there aren't currently definite plans to prioritize that.
The work so far has been done on behalf of the Learning & Engagement team that is Amanda is part of. But the main focus of the Community Tech team is to work on community-identified projects from the wishlist survey. Feel free to edit the proposal I started. If dashboard improvements end up highly supported in the survey, it's much more likely to receive developer attention from WMF next year.
-Sage
On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Shani shani.even@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for the update, Vojtěch! I'm also in the process of translating it all to Hebrew and will begin to work with it shorly as a pilot in two of my academic courses.
Cheers, Shani.
On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:07 PM, Sara Mörtsell <
sara.mortsell@wikimedia.se>
wrote:
Hi Vojtěch,
I really appreciate your update on the dashboard. I only started laborating with some of the student cohorts I have from the Education Program in Sweden, and I really need to learn more. And think of a good Swedish name for it before launching.
Thanks, Sara
2016-11-08 17:54 GMT+01:00 Vojtěch Dostál <vojtech.dostal@wikimedia.cz
:
Dear collab-orators,
since Stockholm I have been trying to help with the development of the Program&Events Dashboard which is, at some point, likely to replace the outdated Education Extension. Yesterday Amanda Bittaker (CC'ed) gave
me a
guided tour of the current state of dashboard and I had an opportunity
to
ask questions. I will also be taking part in biweekly calls with the developer team to make sure that the Dashboard development is going the right direction.
Some of you are probably already using it but most of the large country programs are not using it yet on a large scale. I think there is a
lack of
reliable and trustworthy information about the P&E Dashboard so let me
give
you an update what it does:
Is is an open system letting anyone with a Wikipedia account log in and create his/her own course pages. There is nothing like userrights
except for
developer access
advantage: no barriers, disadvantage: possible vandalism or trolling.
When you create a course page, you can send a link to this course page
so
that participants can log in. Students need to fill in a "password" -
this
can be publicly announced on the course page or entirely private
advantage: enables to "close" course for a desired group people only disadvantage: participants have to overcome one more step when they
want
to enrol in the course
you can create a course by cloning one of your past course pages (not someone else's) or by starting a completely new page. In the course
page
set-up, you can choose your "home project" and "home language".
there is probably no way to add "templates" to course pages. For
example,
each our course page on Czech Wikipedia has a template which links to guidelines, helpdesk etc.
you can edit the course page if you are the creator or the creator has assigned you as the "facilitator" of the course.
advantage: preventing changes done by people who have no relationship
or
knowledge about the project disadvantage: teachers creating course pages have to assign local coordinators as facilitators otherwise the facilitators cannot help
them
design the pages or curate them. This will lead to a load of e-mails
saying
"Can you please assign me as a facilitator to the course, sir?"
creating campaigns (groups of courses) is not available yet. It is not sure when it will be ready but hopefully before March. This is crucial
to
large country programs - we need to have a list of "our" projects.
advantage: you can include some information or links or training
material
to the individual course pages disadvantage: anyone will be able to create campaigns - this will lead
to
a mess
Overall the Community Tech team has done a good job in recent months! Thanks for your work on this and especially for all you are planning
to do.
But we need more work before the large programs like ours are likely
to use
it on a large scale.
For more information please see this page. You can give feedback on the discussion page there. This will be very useful for the developers who
are
eager to get some input, especially about the campaigns, according to Amanda.
Also I think we need to think about the name of the dashboard more... I cannot imagine telling our students to open browser and type http://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/ - we should make a shortened
version
too with a catchy name than can be easily communicated without
knowledge of
English. My Phabricator ticket for this is here, without any comments
for
two months now.
I understand there will be some announcements coming from the Community Tech team in near future.
I think this would be also useful to the education@lists.wikimedia.org people. There has been no official information about the Dashboard for months on that mailing list!
best,
Vojtěch Dostál
předseda rady / chair of the board Wikimedia Česká republika | http://www.wikimedia.cz Facebook | Twitter | Newsletter
education-collab mailing list education-collab@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education-collab
--
Med vänliga hälsningar, Sara Mörtsell
Sara Mörtsell | Education Manager, Wikimedia Sverige sara.mortsell@wikimedia.se | +4673-383 26 70
Stöd fri kunskap genom att bli medlem!
education-collab mailing list education-collab@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education-collab
education-collab mailing list education-collab@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education-collab
Hello educators,
Just pinging this again, as so far only Liang & I endorsed the Program & Events Dashboard wish that Sage opened on the community wishlist.
It's highly important that there is a wider support for it, as the developers will give it more attention, so please go to this link https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2016_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Categories/Programs_and_eventsand add your endorsement. It'll take you less than a minute and it'll make all of our lives so much easier.. :)
Cheers, Shani.
On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:32 PM, Amanda Bittaker abittaker@wikimedia.org wrote:
If dashboard improvements end up highly supported in the survey, it's much
more likely to receive developer attention from WMF next year.
Excellent reminder, and thanks for starting the proposal Sage! My team's biggest push was getting the Dashboard usable for any Wikimedia project in any language, and now we are working on campaigns, but there is still a ton that could be done for education and other programs. The WMF currently does not have any plans to dedicate Engineering time to further features. Refining and supporting this proposal could make the difference.
Cheers, Amanda
On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Sage Ross sage@wikiedu.org wrote:
Thanks Vojtěch!
On a related note, I started a proposal in the new Community Wishlist Survey for making the dashboard good enough for education programs to be a viable replacement for the EducationProgram extension: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2016_Community_Wishlist_Surv ey/Categories/Programs_and_events
The current state of things is that the Community Tech team is working on the use case of edit-a-thon campaigns right now. Amanda and the Community Tech team have discussed the education program as a key use case for the future, but there aren't currently definite plans to prioritize that.
The work so far has been done on behalf of the Learning & Engagement team that is Amanda is part of. But the main focus of the Community Tech team is to work on community-identified projects from the wishlist survey. Feel free to edit the proposal I started. If dashboard improvements end up highly supported in the survey, it's much more likely to receive developer attention from WMF next year.
-Sage
On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Shani shani.even@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for the update, Vojtěch! I'm also in the process of translating it all to Hebrew and will begin
to
work with it shorly as a pilot in two of my academic courses.
Cheers, Shani.
On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:07 PM, Sara Mörtsell <
sara.mortsell@wikimedia.se>
wrote:
Hi Vojtěch,
I really appreciate your update on the dashboard. I only started laborating with some of the student cohorts I have from the Education Program in Sweden, and I really need to learn more. And think of a good Swedish name for it before launching.
Thanks, Sara
2016-11-08 17:54 GMT+01:00 Vojtěch Dostál <vojtech.dostal@wikimedia.cz
:
Dear collab-orators,
since Stockholm I have been trying to help with the development of the Program&Events Dashboard which is, at some point, likely to replace
the
outdated Education Extension. Yesterday Amanda Bittaker (CC'ed) gave
me a
guided tour of the current state of dashboard and I had an
opportunity to
ask questions. I will also be taking part in biweekly calls with the developer team to make sure that the Dashboard development is going
the
right direction.
Some of you are probably already using it but most of the large
country
programs are not using it yet on a large scale. I think there is a
lack of
reliable and trustworthy information about the P&E Dashboard so let
me give
you an update what it does:
Is is an open system letting anyone with a Wikipedia account log in
and
create his/her own course pages. There is nothing like userrights
except for
developer access
advantage: no barriers, disadvantage: possible vandalism or trolling.
When you create a course page, you can send a link to this course
page so
that participants can log in. Students need to fill in a "password" -
this
can be publicly announced on the course page or entirely private
advantage: enables to "close" course for a desired group people only disadvantage: participants have to overcome one more step when they
want
to enrol in the course
you can create a course by cloning one of your past course pages (not someone else's) or by starting a completely new page. In the course
page
set-up, you can choose your "home project" and "home language".
there is probably no way to add "templates" to course pages. For
example,
each our course page on Czech Wikipedia has a template which links to guidelines, helpdesk etc.
you can edit the course page if you are the creator or the creator has assigned you as the "facilitator" of the course.
advantage: preventing changes done by people who have no relationship
or
knowledge about the project disadvantage: teachers creating course pages have to assign local coordinators as facilitators otherwise the facilitators cannot help
them
design the pages or curate them. This will lead to a load of e-mails
saying
"Can you please assign me as a facilitator to the course, sir?"
creating campaigns (groups of courses) is not available yet. It is not sure when it will be ready but hopefully before March. This is
crucial to
large country programs - we need to have a list of "our" projects.
advantage: you can include some information or links or training
material
to the individual course pages disadvantage: anyone will be able to create campaigns - this will
lead to
a mess
Overall the Community Tech team has done a good job in recent months! Thanks for your work on this and especially for all you are planning
to do.
But we need more work before the large programs like ours are likely
to use
it on a large scale.
For more information please see this page. You can give feedback on
the
discussion page there. This will be very useful for the developers
who are
eager to get some input, especially about the campaigns, according to Amanda.
Also I think we need to think about the name of the dashboard more...
I
cannot imagine telling our students to open browser and type http://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/ - we should make a shortened
version
too with a catchy name than can be easily communicated without
knowledge of
English. My Phabricator ticket for this is here, without any comments
for
two months now.
I understand there will be some announcements coming from the
Community
Tech team in near future.
I think this would be also useful to the
education@lists.wikimedia.org
people. There has been no official information about the Dashboard for months on that mailing list!
best,
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Thank you Shani.
At this point, the community wishlist survey is still in the proposals phase, so the most helpful thing is to improve the proposal — for example, by including specific features or changes that you know you'll need in order to use it on your own program.
The voting phase will start one week from now (November 28) and that is when you'll be able to add your votes.
-Sage
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 4:44 AM, Shani shani.even@gmail.com wrote:
Hello educators,
Just pinging this again, as so far only Liang & I endorsed the Program & Events Dashboard wish that Sage opened on the community wishlist.
It's highly important that there is a wider support for it, as the developers will give it more attention, so please go to this link and add your endorsement. It'll take you less than a minute and it'll make all of our lives so much easier.. :)
Cheers, Shani.
On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:32 PM, Amanda Bittaker abittaker@wikimedia.org wrote:
If dashboard improvements end up highly supported in the survey, it's much more likely to receive developer attention from WMF next year.
Excellent reminder, and thanks for starting the proposal Sage! My team's biggest push was getting the Dashboard usable for any Wikimedia project in any language, and now we are working on campaigns, but there is still a ton that could be done for education and other programs. The WMF currently does not have any plans to dedicate Engineering time to further features. Refining and supporting this proposal could make the difference.
Cheers, Amanda
On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Sage Ross sage@wikiedu.org wrote:
Thanks Vojtěch!
On a related note, I started a proposal in the new Community Wishlist Survey for making the dashboard good enough for education programs to be a viable replacement for the EducationProgram extension:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2016_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Categories/Pr...
The current state of things is that the Community Tech team is working on the use case of edit-a-thon campaigns right now. Amanda and the Community Tech team have discussed the education program as a key use case for the future, but there aren't currently definite plans to prioritize that.
The work so far has been done on behalf of the Learning & Engagement team that is Amanda is part of. But the main focus of the Community Tech team is to work on community-identified projects from the wishlist survey. Feel free to edit the proposal I started. If dashboard improvements end up highly supported in the survey, it's much more likely to receive developer attention from WMF next year.
-Sage
On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Shani shani.even@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for the update, Vojtěch! I'm also in the process of translating it all to Hebrew and will begin to work with it shorly as a pilot in two of my academic courses.
Cheers, Shani.
On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:07 PM, Sara Mörtsell sara.mortsell@wikimedia.se wrote:
Hi Vojtěch,
I really appreciate your update on the dashboard. I only started laborating with some of the student cohorts I have from the Education Program in Sweden, and I really need to learn more. And think of a good Swedish name for it before launching.
Thanks, Sara
2016-11-08 17:54 GMT+01:00 Vojtěch Dostál vojtech.dostal@wikimedia.cz:
Dear collab-orators,
since Stockholm I have been trying to help with the development of the Program&Events Dashboard which is, at some point, likely to replace the outdated Education Extension. Yesterday Amanda Bittaker (CC'ed) gave me a guided tour of the current state of dashboard and I had an opportunity to ask questions. I will also be taking part in biweekly calls with the developer team to make sure that the Dashboard development is going the right direction.
Some of you are probably already using it but most of the large country programs are not using it yet on a large scale. I think there is a lack of reliable and trustworthy information about the P&E Dashboard so let me give you an update what it does:
Is is an open system letting anyone with a Wikipedia account log in and create his/her own course pages. There is nothing like userrights except for developer access
advantage: no barriers, disadvantage: possible vandalism or trolling.
When you create a course page, you can send a link to this course page so that participants can log in. Students need to fill in a "password" - this can be publicly announced on the course page or entirely private
advantage: enables to "close" course for a desired group people only disadvantage: participants have to overcome one more step when they want to enrol in the course
you can create a course by cloning one of your past course pages (not someone else's) or by starting a completely new page. In the course page set-up, you can choose your "home project" and "home language".
there is probably no way to add "templates" to course pages. For example, each our course page on Czech Wikipedia has a template which links to guidelines, helpdesk etc.
you can edit the course page if you are the creator or the creator has assigned you as the "facilitator" of the course.
advantage: preventing changes done by people who have no relationship or knowledge about the project disadvantage: teachers creating course pages have to assign local coordinators as facilitators otherwise the facilitators cannot help them design the pages or curate them. This will lead to a load of e-mails saying "Can you please assign me as a facilitator to the course, sir?"
creating campaigns (groups of courses) is not available yet. It is not sure when it will be ready but hopefully before March. This is crucial to large country programs - we need to have a list of "our" projects.
advantage: you can include some information or links or training material to the individual course pages disadvantage: anyone will be able to create campaigns - this will lead to a mess
Overall the Community Tech team has done a good job in recent months! Thanks for your work on this and especially for all you are planning to do. But we need more work before the large programs like ours are likely to use it on a large scale.
For more information please see this page. You can give feedback on the discussion page there. This will be very useful for the developers who are eager to get some input, especially about the campaigns, according to Amanda.
Also I think we need to think about the name of the dashboard more... I cannot imagine telling our students to open browser and type http://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/ - we should make a shortened version too with a catchy name than can be easily communicated without knowledge of English. My Phabricator ticket for this is here, without any comments for two months now.
I understand there will be some announcements coming from the Community Tech team in near future.
I think this would be also useful to the education@lists.wikimedia.org people. There has been no official information about the Dashboard for months on that mailing list!
best,
Vojtěch Dostál
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