Re: [Education-collab] Scheduling the Wiki-EDU Collab Monthly Meetings: Dec 2015 + Jan

Thanks for your input, Vojtech! I agree regarding trickiness of filming various programs, but it can be worked around creatively, by filming locally, interviewing online and editing everything later to one video. The bigger challenge I see is deciding what goes into such a video.. But before we get there, let's see if others agree it's necessary. As for 10 min vs. 15+5 for questions -- no doubt, 10 is better than nothing. However, the reason for propoding a longer time is to allow people time to get into the details of *how* exactly they run their programs. It seems to me that we talk a lot about best practices and documentation, but bedises metrics (that the FDC also requires), the level of details is such that if you really want to understand how a specific program works, actually learn from their experience and say try to "duplicate" the experience, you won't know what to do because all you know it that "X had a great experience with 5th grade pupils", "Y created a successful university course", "Z have an inspiring senior citizen program". In other words, I find that other than this shallow knowledge *of* programs, the actual knowlege of *how* they really run is very little. Now, it may as well be something that only bothers me. If so, I'll continue to do what I can on my personal capacity. But if it's not, and other share the need for more details, then let's do something about - let's collabotatively think of standars for effectively reporting a project / initiative and change the discourse. These videos can be a step in the right direction. :-) Cheers, Shani. Hello Shani, thanks for your work on this! As for the in-depth discussions, my view is that 20 minutes is too much to explain and discuss a single program. I'd give it a maximum of 10 minutes but that's just my personal view. It would be very nice to have and official promotional video featuring the global education activities. At the same, the global nature of our projects means that it will take a lot of time and cost a lot of money to capture more than just 1-2 programs. Vojtěch Dostál předseda rady / chairman of the board Wikimedia Česká republika / Wikimedia Czech Republic http://www.wikimedia.cz Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/Wikimedia.CR> | Twitter <https://twitter.com/Wikimedia_CR> | Newsletter <http://eepurl.com/FsHJr> 2015-11-28 16:42 GMT+01:00 Shani &lt;shani.even(a)gmail.com&gt;om>: > Hello, Collab enthusiasts! > > 1 - I've just sent out a doodle for the coming *2 hangouts for > December & January*. > Since part of Dec includes holidays and some of us will be > vacationing, it would be good to schedule these two dates advance. > Please fill out the doodle by next Saturday (Dec 6th) so we can > schedule a final meeting time as soon as possible. > > 2 - Following a remark Paola made during our last meeting about a need > for an in-depth discussions about various topics, I'd like to propose using > our monthly meeting in a new way. I was thinking we can use the first 20 > minutes of each meeting to showcase a specific project / initiative from > around the world. Something in the lines of a 15 minute explanation about > the project and 5 minutes for questions. > I believe having more than a minute to share our experiences will > benefit everyone. > I also suggest that at least these parts of our meeting will be > recorded and then uploaded as a YouTube video. Recording doesn't have to be > via "hangout on air". We can simply use a screen-capture software for that > part of the session. The idea is that we have a growing database of > wiki-edu case reports, some might probably be best practices, but even if > they are not, people can learn from anything that happens, from things that > do not work as well as things that do work. In short, videos are an > important educational tool. There is no reason why we should document only > in a written form on outreach. We can use other sources and link them on > outreach. I think this is something practical the collab can do to promote > awareness. > *What do you say..? Is this something you'd like us to do during our > meetings?* > > 3 - And one last suggestion, which is *practically directed at the > WMF team, but again, I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts about* -- > with Education been such a focus globally in many chapters and the WMF > itself, would it be possible to harness Victor, the WMF's official > story-teller, to create a sort of "formal" video about what the Wiki > Education program is? Similar to what was done for Wikipedia Zero, or a few > days ago for the Erasmus prize? I think it's something we really need and > can be used worldwide (with subtitles) to promote what it is that we are > doing here. > > > Thanks for bearing with me with all my thoughts today.. :) > > Have a great weekend, everyone! > Shani. > > > > On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Shani Evenstein (via Doodle) < > mailer(a)doodle.com&gt; wrote: > >> Shani Evenstein invites you to participate in the Doodle poll >> "Scheduling the Wiki-EDU Collab Monthly Meetings: Dec 2015 + Jan." >> >> <https://doodle.com/?tmail=poll_invitecontact_participant_invitation_with_message&tlink=logo> >> Hi there, >> >> Shani Evenstein (shani.even(a)gmail.com) invites you to participate in >> the Doodle poll "Scheduling the Wiki-EDU Collab Monthly Meetings: >> Dec 2015 + Jan." >> Hi, Collab members, >> >> This Doodle is for us to schedule our next *2* Wiki-EDU Collab >> Monthly Meeting, for both December 2015 & January 2016. >> Please mark the dates you can make it so we can set the time in >> advance. >> These meetings are not mandatory, but we would love to meet as many >> of you as possible online. >> >> Best, >> Shani & the WMF's EDU team. >> Participate now >> <https://doodle.com/poll/2s6r7pw44dqtuddw?tmail=poll_invitecontact_participant_invitation_with_message&tlink=pollbtn> >> What is Doodle? 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