Hello!
I have shared the expenses sheet with the Wikimedia Kenya board and am waiting for their comments on that and questions if any to me as the treasurer so that the board can in turn present the same to the chapter. I am waiting for responses from the board and I have received none as yet. They have a deadline that I set for Friday the 20th of July 2012 after-which I will take the next course of action after assuming they have nothing they expect me to clarify about the expenditures there in.
Just so you know, I like the muscle of this thread and not the one on Wikiproject Kenya or Africa for that matter.
regards, Stephen.
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:15 AM, David Mugo raidarmax@gmail.com wrote:
Abbas,
You are forgetting that the board has not handled any finances or assets. What this should be is a handover of what so far has been handled by Steve officially to the board.
On the audit committee, we did agree that we will form it and I think this is a good time to do so.
David. On Jul 18, 2012 4:19 PM, "Abbas Mahmood" abbasjnr@hotmail.com wrote:
No, I disagree.
The Board can not audit itself -- there will definitely be bias and self-interest. The Board can (and should) have an audit committee (or an interim committee) that will examine the financial records of Wikimedia Kenya. This committee will then report back to the Board with its findings (which can be then made publicly).
Abbas.
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 22:44:01 +0300 From: raidarmax@gmail.com To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] URGENT MEETUP and WMKE Financials
Abbas, My point is that the board should meet, diacuss and report to the rest of the team. I agree we should be accountable but there is a reason why there is a board. Discussing finances in large groups especially when prompted by a dispute could cause tension. Lets handle things right. David. On Jul 18, 2012 3:33 PM, "Abbas Mahmood" abbasjnr@hotmail.com wrote:
David,
What do you mean by "Chapters should not meet to discuss finances?" How do you ensure that there's accountability?
Also, I think that everyone who has a company asset should declare it, and that a requisition form be made ASAP where interested users should fill it in and get approval (from the Board?). Who has the projectors? Who has the screens? Who has the banners? Who has the camera?
--Abbas.
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 22:17:58 +0300 From: raidarmax@gmail.com To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] URGENT MEETUP and WMKE Financials
Oscar, Chapter should not meet to discuss finances, I do not think this is the appropriate way to handle this. The board can meet and discuss this issue and i can even join via Skype if it is proper hours for me. Meanwhile, I have seen the statement that Steve (or was it Oscar? ) shared, there are some things that require explanation and I think a good start would be the board point any questions to Steve in this regard here. This mailing list is public so no one should think anything is being discussed underground. David. On Jul 18, 2012 3:11 PM, "Limoke Oscar" oslimoke@gmail.com wrote:
HI Team, IN the absence of our Chair and in the interest of the Chapter following the recent financial saga with Wikimedia Spain financials where they lost over 2500USD Chapters funds, I would like to propose an urgent Chapters meeting to do a quick audit of our financials in an open way THE treasurer should get us our Statements of expenditures and accounts as we stand for half year in order to make plans for a new bank account and to plan for upcoming projects that need urgent member approvals. Please Treasure make plans to avail the same. I PROPOSE at UoN grounds this Saturday? ps: Please come along with our per diems Via my Xperia
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