Obviously, different people will have different
levels of understanding
of copyright, there are some MEPs who are very well versed in copyright.
But your goal is to get your contacts to get you to the right people or to
get the info from the right people.
(The people working at the EC office are likely recruited following a
competitive exam that does not select for the understanding of copyrights,
and MEPs are elected by the citizens (usually not on the basis of their
copyright knowledge), but as a whole both the EC and EP will have people
responsible for either knowing copyright or making decisions around
copyright - you just have to find them. )
Raul Veede <raul.veede(a)gmail.com> ezt írta (időpont: 2016. jún. 4.,
Szo, 23:58):
Well, recalling all the cases with MEPs posing
here and there with
absolutely no idea whether copyright is an animal or a mineral... I'd say
you're an optimist.
I already told the local Rep I'll let them know when I'm available to
explain them the basics of copyright. Gave them links to our materials on
the web, but naturally, nobody ever reads those.
Raul
On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 12:51 AM, Bence Damokos <bdamokos(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> I would imagine the EC did come to some sort of agreement regarding
> their own headquarters' copyright. (Based on this, they are aware of the
> issue, yet they still carry images of the Berlaymont:
>
http://ec.europa.eu/avservices/help/index.cfm?sitelang=en#94 ).
>
> If you are already in contact with their representation in Tallinn,
> you could ask them to follow up on the issue and clarify if the EC has made
> any special agreements on copyright.
> (You also have the right to request the relevant documents that might
> contain the information you need, see for example,
asktheeu.org,
> though I would recommend simply going through the EC Rep and explaining to
> them that the issue might be more complicated than they realise and that
> you would appreciate if they consulted their colleagues in the relevant
> units.)
>
> Best regards,
> Bence
>
> Raul Veede <raul.veede(a)gmail.com> ezt írta (időpont: 2016. jún. 4.,
> Szo, 22:55):
>
>> I could very well ask about it officially, but who would understand
>> the question?
>>
>> Raul
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 9:00 PM, L.Gelauff <lgelauff(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> As they use it in logo's etc, it might very well be that for this
>>> particular case, they acquired permissions etc. But it's all guessing,
>>> couldn't find a reliable source..
>>>
>>> Lodewijk
>>>
>>> 2016-06-04 15:25 GMT+02:00 Raul Veede <raul.veede(a)gmail.com>om>:
>>>
>>>> It would surprise me, actually, if they thought about the copyright
>>>> of the building and solved the problem in time, smoothly. I've talked
to
>>>> many officials in EU, states, municipalities, etc, and whenever they
state
>>>> something about copyright, it is usually just lorem ipsum, they have no
>>>> idea what they are talking about. Any kind of explanation will have to
>>>> start from the basics and it will take a lot of time. There are
exceptions
>>>> but they're truly rare, especially when it concerns FoP.
>>>>
>>>> Raul
>>>> On 4 Jun 2016 16:07, "Owen Blacker"
<owen(a)openrightsgroup.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Belgium doesn't have freedom of panorama, so certainly someone
>>>>> owns the copyright. It wouldn't surprise me if the Commission
did.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 4 Jun 2016, 12:34 Raul Veede, <raul.veede(a)gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The Estonian office of European Commission is trying to convince
>>>>>> me the copyright of the Berlaymont building in Brussels belongs
to the EC.
>>>>>> While I think it might be possible that someone might have asked
for the
>>>>>> architect's permit to spread photos of the building, I have
seen no proof
>>>>>> of it. Can anyone prove or disprove that claim?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Raul
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