But can the apps' reading experience make the
Kessel Run in less than 12
Parsecs?
And, quite frankly, we have to remind ourselves that the apps are still
light years away from having a good editing experience.
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Gergo Tisza <gtisza(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Dmitry Brant
<dbrant(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
But more importantly, you mentioned yourself that
talk pages are really
part of the _editing_ experience. And, quite frankly, we have to remind
ourselves that the apps are still light years away from having a good
editing experience. Therefore, providing access to talk pages without
providing the other fundamentals that are central to editing (moderation
tools, watchlists, diffs, notifications, etc) may be putting the cart
before the horse, and may lead to confusion. In fact, I'm not sure if any
*one* of those editing features makes sense without all the others. And to
implement all of those features in the apps would require a department-wide
focus on editing, which is currently not the case.
Most editors probably own multiple devices, so a partial but good editing
experience is probably more useful than a full but poor one. Large-scale
article editing is never going to be competitive on mobile due to the
inherent limitations of the platform such as the tiny display and slow text
input, so most editors will always use their laptops for that. But if other
pieces of their workload, which *can* be done well on mobile (such as
messaging or patrolling or processing certain backlogs) are well-supported,
that means more desktop time for actual article editing.
So I don't think the kind of interdependencies that you mention exist.
Much of the talk page communication can be detached from editing and done
in a different part of the day, and providing an interface for that will
mean that editors can check their messages while on the bus and do the
editing when at home. (And for users who do not have other means to access
Wikipedia than a phone, a partial experience is probably still better than
no experience.)
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