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Re: [Wikizh-l] [Wikinews-l] [??] Re: [??] Re: Create zh.wikinews.org
by R.O.C 16 Mar '06

16 Mar '06

thanks a lot! brion. the interwiki links all work now. a voting on wikinews logo is ongoing at http://zh.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:%E8%8C%B6%E9%A6%86. roc 2006/3/15, Brion Vibber <brion(a)pobox.com>: > > R.O.C wrote: > > 1) the zh.wikinews logo on upper left corner is missing. there are > > several candidates for this logo on > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Vote/Zh, but i am not clear if > > there is a decision from the chinese wikinews community. (i personally > > prefer http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Wikinews_zh_1.png > > <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Wikinews_zh_1.png>) > > If we could get a clear one chosen that would be great... > > > 2) problems about the interwiki and interlanguage links in zh.wikinews: > > This should be all fixed now; use ?action=purge on existing pages before > reporting problems in case they're still cached. > > -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikinews-l mailing list > Wikinews-l(a)Wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l > > > > -- roc (User:R.O.C) --

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Re: [Wikizh-l] [??] Re: [Wikinews-l] [??] Re: Create zh.wikinews.org
by R.O.C 16 Mar '06

16 Mar '06

thank you, brion. there are two more issues on zh.wikinews.org: 1) the zh.wikinews logo on upper left corner is missing. there are several candidates for this logo on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Vote/Zh, but i am not clear if there is a decision from the chinese wikinews community. (i personally prefer http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Wikinews_zh_1.png) 2) problems about the interwiki and interlanguage links in zh.wikinews: 2.1) interlanguage links direct to languages on wikipedia instead of wikinews. for example: [[en:Main Page]] directs to the main page on en.wikipedia instead of en.wikinews; 2.2) [[w:中文維基百科]] (chinese version of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Wikipedia) directs to an article named "w:中文維基百科" on zh.wikinews, though [[wikipedia:中文維基百科]] directs to wikipedia; 2.3) however, [[wikipedia:中文維基百科]] directs to en.wikipedia instead of zh.wikipedia, (at this moment [[wikipedia:zh:中文維基百科]] must be used). -- [[user:R.O.C|roc]] 2006/3/14, Brion Vibber <brion(a)pobox.com>: > > clino wrote: > > I can visit the site: > > https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikinews/en/wiki/ > > but why I Can not visit the site of: > > https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikinews/zh/wiki/ > > Fixed; I made a minor mistake in one of the configuration synchronization > scripts and the updated list of databases didn't go to the server that > runs the > SSL interface. > > -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com) > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFEF16kwRnhpk1wk44RAoc6AKDAMCxabQ87028O+mfMndAGr7uHAwCg04RR > ajr2bjJQTqaudYkNWQK7lCc= > =tbzL > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > >

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Fwd: [??] Re: [??] Re: [Wikinews-l] [??] Re: [??] Re: Create zh.wikinews.org
by R.O.C 15 Mar '06

15 Mar '06

我十分認同fdcn的建議。直到今天才注意看了一下 http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org，不過仍然覺得很複雜（儘管花時間學學應該會學會），而且用英文報告對很多中文用戶的確是障礙。下面是fdcn的原文： >我有个政策提议，应当在中文维基的各个项目里增加一错误与建议页，维基人可以就此提出他们在编辑中遇见的Bug和希望达成的功能，最后由专门管理员判断后以适当文字（英？）提交维基的报告系统。我想这样能增加除错及收集建议的广度。至少很多人不知道维基那个报告系统的，也不知如何提交，在互助客栈的提议总被忽略。 > >to R.O.C: >呵呵，我没有考证那段文字的来源，照我的意思，维基既然已支持这种简写，就不应做以后不支持的打算，否则到时对大量已有链接是个灾难。 roc (User:R.O.C) -- On 3/16/06, R. O. C <sdnyroc(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > thank you, amgine, i'm sorry. it seems that both the mailling list and the > bug report system would work more effciently if i use that report system. > i'll contact you shortly on meta for help. > > > roc (User:R.O.C) > > 在 2006/3/15，amgine(a)saewyc.net <amgine(a)saewyc.net> 撰寫： > > > > R.O.C. > > > > It may be easier for the developers if we write bugzilla reports about > > issues for zh.wikinews. If you contact me on my meta account > > ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Amgine ) I can help you with > > getting reports for the developers. These reports allow the developers > > to > > organize their tasks, and helps remind them which things need doing and > > how long they've been waiting to be done. > > > > Amgine > > > > > > > thank you, brion. there are two more issues on zh.wikinews.org: > > > > 1) the zh.wikinews logo on upper left corner is missing. there are > several > > candidates for this logo on > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Vote/Zh , > > but i am not clear if there is a decision from the chinese wikinews > > community. (i personally prefer > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Wikinews_zh_1.png ) > > > > 2) problems about the interwiki and interlanguage links in zh.wikinews: > > 2.1) interlanguage links direct to languages on wikipedia instead of > > wikinews. for example: [[en:Main Page]] directs to the main page on > > en.wikipedia instead of en.wikinews; > > 2.2 ) [[w:中文維基百科]] (chinese version of > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Wikipedia ) directs to an article > > named > > "w:中文維基百科" on zh.wikinews , though > > [[wikipedia:中文維基百科]] directs to wikipedia; > > > > 2.3) however, [[wikipedia:中文維基百科]] directs to en.wikipedia > > instead of > > zh.wikipedia, (at this moment [[wikipedia:zh:中文維基百科]] must be > > used). > > > > -- > > [[user:R.O.C|roc]] > > R. > _______________________________________________ > Wikinews-l mailing list > Wikinews-l(a)Wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ 維基百科群組瀏覽訂閱: http://groups.google.com/group/zh_wikipedia http://groups.google.com/group/zh_wikipedia/subscribe 通過郵件發言: zh_wikipedia(a)googlegroups.com 維基百科 - 人人可編輯的自由百科 -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---

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Re: [Wikizh-l] [Wikinews-l] [??] Re: [??] Re: Create zh.wikinews.org
by R.O.C 15 Mar '06

15 Mar '06

thank you, amgine, i'm sorry. it seems that both the mailling list and the bug report system would work more effciently if i use that report system. i'll contact you shortly on meta for help. roc (User:R.O.C) 在 2006/3/15，amgine(a)saewyc.net <amgine(a)saewyc.net> 撰寫： > > R.O.C. > > It may be easier for the developers if we write bugzilla reports about > issues for zh.wikinews. If you contact me on my meta account > (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Amgine) I can help you with > getting reports for the developers. These reports allow the developers to > organize their tasks, and helps remind them which things need doing and > how long they've been waiting to be done. > > Amgine > > > > > thank you, brion. there are two more issues on zh.wikinews.org: > > > > 1) the zh.wikinews logo on upper left corner is missing. there are > several > > candidates for this logo on > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Vote/Zh, > > but i am not clear if there is a decision from the chinese wikinews > > community. (i personally prefer > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Wikinews_zh_1.png) > > > > 2) problems about the interwiki and interlanguage links in zh.wikinews: > > 2.1) interlanguage links direct to languages on wikipedia instead of > > wikinews. for example: [[en:Main Page]] directs to the main page on > > en.wikipedia instead of en.wikinews; > > 2.2) [[w:中文維基百科]] (chinese version of > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Wikipedia) directs to an article > > named > > "w:中文維基百科" on zh.wikinews, though > > [[wikipedia:中文維基百科]] directs to wikipedia; > > > > 2.3) however, [[wikipedia:中文維基百科]] directs to en.wikipedia > > instead of > > zh.wikipedia, (at this moment [[wikipedia:zh:中文維基百科]] must be > > used). > > > > -- > > [[user:R.O.C|roc]] > > R. > _______________________________________________ > Wikinews-l mailing list > Wikinews-l(a)Wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l >

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中文維基新聞開設
by THD 14 Mar '06

14 Mar '06

中文維基新聞開設了，網址是http://zh.wikinews.org。

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Re: [Wikizh-l] Create zh.wikinews.org
by Angela 14 Mar '06

14 Mar '06

The Chinese Wikinews is now available at http://zh.wikinews.org/ thanks to Brion. A number of pages are available at <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_language_pre-launch#Chinese.28.E4.B8.AD.…>, some of which might need to be copied over to the new site. Good luck to all involved with this new project. Angela.

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中文維基年會舉辦地點由香港勝出
by THD 14 Mar '06

14 Mar '06

2006中文維基年會在香港就SWOT的分析狀況上海和北京的優勢不足，且劣勢均無解決方法，地方協辦者的參與度不足，均未達到基本要求的標準。以第一輪票選前兩名的香港和台北兩城市來看，台北的優勢雖大於香港，但台北對其劣勢無法提供解決辦法，相對於香港而言，香港不但在第一輪票選獲得第一，且支持者數量遠超過第二名的城市。若以香港和台北兩個城市比較，香港的機會和威脅比較，明顯優於台北。就整體的籌辦過程而言，香港的參與者表現積極，對於各方意見均能合作想出解決方法，在討論過程中，非香港的維基人也能認同現階段香港這個地點，適於舉辦第一屆的中文維基年會，希望所有維基人，共同支持香港維基人來舉辦這次的活動！

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Fwd: 破解中国网络封锁限制
by ZH Wikipedia 13 Mar '06

13 Mar '06

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: 然李 <yiyefenglin(a)gmail.com> Date: Mar 12, 2006 8:27 AM Subject: 破解中国网络封锁限制 To: zh.wikipedia(a)gmail.com 维基百科您好：好不容易找到了能够破解中国国内的网络封锁限制，适用于网吧和不适合使用代理服务器的地方。秘诀就是使用www.google.com然后搜索"维基百科"，大概在第一页的最后一条，又或者在第二页的的一条，是个维基百科的英文网站，然后点击旁边的"翻译此页"然后就可以查看了，不过网络比较慢……但是网页翻译不是很好。另外，想查询一下关于:1989年6月4日北京天安门的那件事的详细资料，如果有视频希望更好。谢谢！！李然 yiyefenglin(a)gmail.com Thank you

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Fwd: ==[[合法性]]条目争议==麻烦了！
by shi zhao 13 Mar '06

13 Mar '06

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: 心愿湖畔 <100518258(a)qq.com> Date: 2006-3-13 上午1:10 Subject: ==[[合法性]]条目争议==麻烦了！ To: Shizhao <shizhao(a)gmail.com> 打扰了！由于您的讨论页无法留言，所以我只能通过邮件形式。我发现[[合法性]]的英译版存在非常严重科学性错误，而又夹带明显的政治形态色彩，所以我重新编写了一个版本，将英译版中科学合理部分我的版本完全包含并且整理扩充，而对不科学不中立部分不可避免的完全重编，大幅提升词条的理论性和权威性（由于英译版有明显的学术性错误，所以这种严肃的词条竟然据不出任何一个理论依据），然而英译版翻译者Dladek 再既不能从实质上指出我的版本的任何一点不科学、不客观的地方，又解释不了为何英译版会有如此低级荒谬的错误，还举不出任何一项支持英译版的理论的情况下，仅仅以我"一言堂"重写他翻译的条目为由将我的版本恢复成英译版。而民国九十五年以不可思议的"读起来像嚼沙子一样""都是些废话""马克斯韦伯算老几阿?"之类的语言反对我的版本，我实在感到没有任何沟通的余地。很抱歉请你在百忙之中关注这个条目，因为这个条目是很多重大争议性条目的理论基础，非常的重要！可是似乎反对我的朋友都具有明显的政治倾向。现在的版本是英译版，我的版本是10:25 2006年3月11日心愿湖畔版本。我不愿发生编辑战，更不愿这个条目出现任何不科学不中立的地方。让劳请您能多做指点。参见[[Wikipedia:新条目推荐/候选]] 为证明我的动机，我可以放弃我的新条目推荐荣誉！荣誉和真理但我一定会坚持后者！真的麻烦了！ 3月11日心愿湖畔

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Fwd: Wikipedia電子郵件
by shi zhao 11 Mar '06

11 Mar '06

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Smilelee <u8906220(a)ms2.ttu.edu.tw> Date: 2006-3-10 下午6:32 Subject: Wikipedia電子郵件 To: Shizhao <shizhao(a)gmail.com> 對不起，我在編"私立大同大學"時，感覺越編越不對。大同大學的名稱中沒有"私立"二字，就我的瞭解，大同大學的校方也不贊成校名被加上"私立"二字。再加上也沒有其它被冠上"私立"二字的臺灣私立大學，所以我想把"私立大同大學"的項目移成較恰當的名稱。我認為，若是能移至"大同大學"當然是最好，這樣子最清楚，但也會與歷史上的大同大學混淆。我想比較好的是"大同大學(臺灣)"、"大同大學(台北)"或是"大同大學(私立)"。當然最後一個是最不好的。這樣可以嗎？要如何作呢？謝謝。

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