Hello,
I know of two different groups that have larger video files they would like to post to commons.
1) profs with videos on OpenCourseWare that also want them to be available for remixing and reuse in Wikimedia projecst. 2) documentary filmmakers that want to share their raw material from interviews and background footage, particularly for documentaries about Wiki[m]edia.
Examples of the first include a few class-length videos about classical mechanics, each 150-200MB long, which could be easily broken down into dozens of clips suitable for illustrating part of various physics articles and books.
Examples of the second include the material from the original Wikimentary http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=mediatype%3Amovies%20AND%20collectio... and the footage from Truth in Numbers?, the former already posted to the Internet Archive, the latter proposed for uploading and sharing soon. Since TiN? has ~1TB of footage to share from the past 5 years, I encouraged them to join this list.
Questions; --> where should raw original media be posted? I'd like to say 'Commons' but the file size limits prevents that at present. The Internet Archive solution seems like it may work in theory but is hard to use in practice. --> how do we handle high res original formats vs. lighter formats suitable for quick editing? I assume we don't have tools that automatically rescale resolution the way we have them for images. --> have we ever had a bulk upload of video clips?
Sam.
-- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266
Hi Sam et al,
I think there are also a number of general content donors who would be willing to donate at higher sizes than 100 MB.
The example I'm most familiar with is Earth-Touch, they would perhaps not give us their full resolution, but they would probably still consider something larger than this:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Images_from_Earth-Touch
Thanks, Richard (User:Pharos)
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I know of two different groups that have larger video files they would like to post to commons.
- profs with videos on OpenCourseWare that also want them to be
available for remixing and reuse in Wikimedia projecst. 2) documentary filmmakers that want to share their raw material from interviews and background footage, particularly for documentaries about Wiki[m]edia.
Examples of the first include a few class-length videos about classical mechanics, each 150-200MB long, which could be easily broken down into dozens of clips suitable for illustrating part of various physics articles and books.
Examples of the second include the material from the original Wikimentary http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=mediatype%3Amovies%20AND%20collectio... and the footage from Truth in Numbers?, the former already posted to the Internet Archive, the latter proposed for uploading and sharing soon. Since TiN? has ~1TB of footage to share from the past 5 years, I encouraged them to join this list.
Questions; --> where should raw original media be posted? I'd like to say 'Commons' but the file size limits prevents that at present. The Internet Archive solution seems like it may work in theory but is hard to use in practice. --> how do we handle high res original formats vs. lighter formats suitable for quick editing? I assume we don't have tools that automatically rescale resolution the way we have them for images. --> have we ever had a bulk upload of video clips?
Sam.
-- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266
Wikivideo-l mailing list Wikivideo-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivideo-l
True. What's the process for getting the upload limit raised? It has been 100MB for many Moores.
Sam.
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Pharos pharosofalexandria@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Sam et al,
I think there are also a number of general content donors who would be willing to donate at higher sizes than 100 MB.
The example I'm most familiar with is Earth-Touch, they would perhaps not give us their full resolution, but they would probably still consider something larger than this:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Images_from_Earth-Touch
Thanks, Richard (User:Pharos)
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I know of two different groups that have larger video files they would like to post to commons.
- profs with videos on OpenCourseWare that also want them to be
available for remixing and reuse in Wikimedia projecst. 2) documentary filmmakers that want to share their raw material from interviews and background footage, particularly for documentaries about Wiki[m]edia.
Examples of the first include a few class-length videos about classical mechanics, each 150-200MB long, which could be easily broken down into dozens of clips suitable for illustrating part of various physics articles and books.
Examples of the second include the material from the original Wikimentary http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=mediatype%3Amovies%20AND%20collectio... and the footage from Truth in Numbers?, the former already posted to the Internet Archive, the latter proposed for uploading and sharing soon. Since TiN? has ~1TB of footage to share from the past 5 years, I encouraged them to join this list.
Questions; --> where should raw original media be posted? I'd like to say 'Commons' but the file size limits prevents that at present. The Internet Archive solution seems like it may work in theory but is hard to use in practice. --> how do we handle high res original formats vs. lighter formats suitable for quick editing? I assume we don't have tools that automatically rescale resolution the way we have them for images. --> have we ever had a bulk upload of video clips?
Sam.
-- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266
Wikivideo-l mailing list Wikivideo-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivideo-l
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Yes, It would be nice to support high[er] resolution files. We of course don't always want the HD embed in an article at 250 pixels wide. An effort to support that was the transcoding support which is part of the timedMediaHandler ( the extension version of the mwEmbed gadget with the same feature set; html5 player, timed text / subtitles, and multiple sources per embed etc. ) http://prototype.wikimedia.org/sandbox.9/Transcoding_Test
Within the next month I should have time to bring this effort up-to-date with the latest resource loader and ideally also include the WebM derivatives input / output format support. But we will need attention from the foundation side to bring it into production.
Likewise it would be nice support larger file uploads. Because of architectural limitations of the platform we have targeted a chunk uploading system in conjunction with the firefogg tool. This also was 'working' has a refactored version, but also needs to brought into practice and is dependent on the trunk / 1.17 code making it into production.
For batch video uploads it would be very beneficial to turn on allowCopyByURL, This enables a script to just send simple api requests to import a collection of files that are web accessible. This was enabled temporarily but disabled to be improved. Its been improved for some time, and once the site gets updated we should lobby for it to be turned on again.
I agree at a minimum in the short term it would be great to double or triple the upload limit as servers have certinaly increased in capacity since the last time we increased it years ago.
peace, --michael
On 12/23/2010 02:05 PM, Samuel Klein wrote:
Hello,
I know of two different groups that have larger video files they would like to post to commons.
- profs with videos on OpenCourseWare that also want them to be
available for remixing and reuse in Wikimedia projecst. 2) documentary filmmakers that want to share their raw material from interviews and background footage, particularly for documentaries about Wiki[m]edia.
Examples of the first include a few class-length videos about classical mechanics, each 150-200MB long, which could be easily broken down into dozens of clips suitable for illustrating part of various physics articles and books.
Examples of the second include the material from the original Wikimentary http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=mediatype%3Amovies%20AND%20collectio... and the footage from Truth in Numbers?, the former already posted to the Internet Archive, the latter proposed for uploading and sharing soon. Since TiN? has ~1TB of footage to share from the past 5 years, I encouraged them to join this list.
Questions; --> where should raw original media be posted? I'd like to say 'Commons' but the file size limits prevents that at present. The Internet Archive solution seems like it may work in theory but is hard to use in practice. --> how do we handle high res original formats vs. lighter formats suitable for quick editing? I assume we don't have tools that automatically rescale resolution the way we have them for images. --> have we ever had a bulk upload of video clips?
Sam.
-- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266
Wikivideo-l mailing list Wikivideo-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivideo-l
Hello,
Thanks for all of that info.
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Michael Dale mdale@wikimedia.org wrote:
Very nice.
I agree at a minimum in the short term it would be great to double or triple the upload limit as servers have certinaly increased in capacity since the last time we increased it years ago.
Ok -- you might repeat this in response to my last cross-post on wikitech-l :-)
SJ
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