On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Rob Lanphier robla@wikimedia.org wrote:
Ok, so after this, and a couple of brief offlist discussions, we've made a slight change to the plan [to deploy TimedMediaHandler]:
Here's what we'll do:
- Wednesday, October 31: Deploy to en.wikipedia.org first. There's
enough video content there, and robust enough feedback (WP:VPT) that if there's any problem with video, we'll hear about it. Also, more easiliy reversed than going to commons. 2) (TBD, possibly Monday, November 5) Deploy to everything *but* commons 3) (TBD, possibly Wednesday, November 7) Deploy to commons
I'll make the changes to all of the published plans to reflect this.
Another update. We're going to postpone this one day. There's some further testing that needs to happen on older versions of IE, as well as a fix for a blocker that needs to be deployed and spend some time in test. New time: Thursday, November 1, 16:00 UTC to English Wikipedia.
Rob
TMH is running on enwiki now (i.e. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_bear)
Will we be able to use this on landing pages in the fundraiser? I really don't want to have to use a disclaimer and YouTube, which we will if this won't work.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Jan Gerber jgerber@wikimedia.org wrote:
TMH is running on enwiki now (i.e. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_bear )
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It should be deployed to all the other wikis on Monday. Assuming the fundraiser wiki is one of those wiki's you should be able to use it on the landing pages for the fundraiser ;)
But this release does not include the h.264 support enabled. If you wanted to reach mobile / have a good experience in IE, we would have to look into at enabling h.264 flavours on a dedicated wiki. Maybe we should talk schedules / project priorities offline with appropriate stake holders?
--michael
On 11/01/2012 01:43 PM, Victor Grigas wrote:
Will we be able to use this on landing pages in the fundraiser? I really don't want to have to use a disclaimer and YouTube, which we will if this won't work.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Jan Gerber <jgerber@wikimedia.org mailto:jgerber@wikimedia.org> wrote:
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On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Victor Grigas vgrigas@wikimedia.org wrote:
Will we be able to use this on landing pages in the fundraiser? I really don't want to have to use a disclaimer and YouTube, which we will if this won't work.
As we saw when Google made a "Little Nemo" doodle and swamped the Wikipedia article that included the "Gertie the Dinosaur" video with pageviews, our infrastructure won't yet be able to serve the high degree of concurrent access to a single video that you can expect during the fundraiser. So even if we deploy TMH to the payments cluster my recommendation is to go with the YouTube or Vimeo solution for now.
-- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation
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Would it be worthwhile to conduct a brief test?
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Erik Moeller erik@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Victor Grigas vgrigas@wikimedia.org wrote:
Will we be able to use this on landing pages in the fundraiser? I really don't want to have to use a disclaimer and YouTube, which we
will if this won't work.
As we saw when Google made a "Little Nemo" doodle and swamped the Wikipedia article that included the "Gertie the Dinosaur" video with pageviews, our infrastructure won't yet be able to serve the high degree of concurrent access to a single video that you can expect during the fundraiser. So even if we deploy TMH to the payments cluster my recommendation is to go with the YouTube or Vimeo solution for now.
-- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation
Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate
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On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Victor Grigas vgrigas@wikimedia.org wrote:
Would it be worthwhile to conduct a brief test?
Google kind of did that for us. I'm not sure I see the point of another test, but I'll ask Mark if he thinks it'd be worthwhile at this time.
Erik
-- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation
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What is the current plan for long-term support of large media collections and streaming requirements? Is there an on-wiki discussion of options for sharing this problem/solution with another archive, such as IA?
SJ
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Erik Moeller erik@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Victor Grigas vgrigas@wikimedia.org wrote:
Will we be able to use this on landing pages in the fundraiser? I really don't want to have to use a disclaimer and YouTube, which we
will if this won't work.
As we saw when Google made a "Little Nemo" doodle and swamped the Wikipedia article that included the "Gertie the Dinosaur" video with pageviews, our infrastructure won't yet be able to serve the high degree of concurrent access to a single video that you can expect during the fundraiser. So even if we deploy TMH to the payments cluster my recommendation is to go with the YouTube or Vimeo solution for now.
-- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation
Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate
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(and: this is totally awesome :)
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Jan Gerber jgerber@wikimedia.org wrote:
TMH is running on enwiki now (i.e. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_bear )
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Yes, totally awesome.
Michael or anyone else, is there a new equivalent to the thumbtime parameter to choose which frame gets displayed as the thumbnail? I notice that for existing videos on Wikipedia now, once I purge the page and it reappears with the TMH player, the thumbtime parameter no longer works.
-Sage (User:Ragesoss)
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
(and: this is totally awesome :)
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Jan Gerber jgerber@wikimedia.org wrote:
TMH is running on enwiki now (i.e. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_bear)
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Sage and I just discussed this, and he repurposed bug 39014 to further describe the problem: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39014
Examples of videos that are getting the wrong thumbnail: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Training/Newcomers/Citing_sources
Rob
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipedia@gmail.comwrote:
Yes, totally awesome.
Michael or anyone else, is there a new equivalent to the thumbtime parameter to choose which frame gets displayed as the thumbnail? I notice that for existing videos on Wikipedia now, once I purge the page and it reappears with the TMH player, the thumbtime parameter no longer works.
-Sage (User:Ragesoss)
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
(and: this is totally awesome :)
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Jan Gerber jgerber@wikimedia.org wrote:
TMH is running on enwiki now (i.e. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_bear)
Wikivideo-l mailing list Wikivideo-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivideo-l
-- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266
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thumbtime works, but currently only for videos uploaded to test2. For the transition those options are ignored for videos from commons. Once commons also runs TMH, thumbtime should work for commons videos too. (need to remove the overwrite from TMH at that point)
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