Hi,
FWIW, for video2commons, the VP9/Opus option doesn't always work and I don't think I have time to fix it; even if it works it's hyper slow. :( Both VP8/Vorbis and Theora/Vorbis should work in most cases. (BTW: Sometimes, experimental options are really experimental).
As for convert on upload, UW used to rely on Firefogg to do the conversion, but Firefogg was broken a few months ago and support was removed. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T157319 is relevant.
YiFei (Zhuyifei1999)
2017-09-05 11:17 GMT-05:00 Samat samat78@gmail.com:
I forgot to mention, that XMedia Recode has no option converting to VP9, therefore I converted to VP8 format. I didn't find a working tool or free software, I could convert videos to VP9 format. (And AV1 [1] is almost here.)
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 6:11 PM, Samat samat78@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All,
I attended on the section about videos of Wikimania, where one of the topics was, that Wikimedia Commons needs more videos.
Until now, I tried to upload a video only ones, and this was the result:
The main reasons are
- While I have experience with photography, I am a bad cinematographer;
- I am not familiar with the video formats, their parameters and how can
I convert between formats (keeping the quality high as much as possible).
After Wikimania I decided to upload some videos I recorded during Wikimania, and I spent a day with this task without a real success. I would like to share this experience, and maybe you can give me advice.
First I tried to convert my MP4 (H264+AAC) records to webm format. I started with a relatively smaller video with the size of around 200 MB.
- I tried the https://tools.wmflabs.org/videoconvert/ tool.
I logged in, started to upload the video. Uploading was very slow. After a longer time the page showed, that the upload was finished, but as soon as I wanted to move on the next step, I realized, that I had to log in again. Then I realized, that the video was uploaded only partly (probably I was logged out because of an unknown reason). I tried to convert the video, but there was no status update, how long should I wait. After one hour I reloaded the page, and the tool told me, I have to log in again. After that I saw, that I lost the session and I should start it again. After that I jumped to the next tool.
- I tried the https://tools.wmflabs.org/video2commons/ tool.
The interface is nice, my feeling was, that it was faster (but still a long time). After I uploaded the video, I chose the VP9 format (I think it provides better quality that VP8). After some minutes I received an error message: Exitcode: 1 Ok, I restarted the conversion, but in the end I got the same result. I had to choose between restart the conversion or delete the task, and finally I deleted the task. With that, I deleted the uploaded video in the same time, there was no way to change the conversion settings only. I jumped to an offline tool (because this uploading process will be even longer with larger videos).
Note: none of the online conversion tools (nor the Upload Wizard on Commons!) has the option to pause the uploading process, I can only completely cancel it. It would be useful, because uploads can take hours long and meanwhile I should use my internet connection for example for a call or internet banking temporarily (both happened yesterday).
- I tried to convert using the latest VLC video player. After I set the
parameters, I clicked convert. Then the software completely crashed. I tried ones more, with the same result.
- As a last try, I downloaded the XMedia Recode software.
And after I learnt the software a little bit, I was able to convert my video.
I tried with different setups, but I didn't see the really big difference with the video compressed 1/10 of the highest quality settings... I set the bitrate of the audio channel to 192 kb/s, but I have no feeling with the video channel. I am wondering what are the optimal settings (compression level without observable quality loss) based on your experience.
Best, Samat
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