Wikiversity-l December 2013

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University engagement with Wikimedia projects
by Leigh Blackall 08 Mar '14

08 Mar '14

Hi folks. Who can point me to or suggest a process for a university wishing to engage Wikimedia projects? By that I mean initial consultation to get advice on how to consider and formulate an appropriate plan encompasing the alignment of policy and practices through to the use, development and production of content. We have ideas on what steps might be good, but I'm wanting suggestions and pointers from others. Regards Leigh

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rebooting the discussion of solved problem pages on Wikiversity
by Robert Dodier 05 Jan '14

05 Jan '14

Now that we have everyone's attention, I'd like to see if anyone would care to comment on the substantial topic at hand, namely solved problem pages on Wikiversity. To recap, I am thinking of setting up one or more pages of math problems solved by Maxima, a symbolic computation system. I am imagining that there would be a main page and a page for each solved problem. Each problem page would have a brief discussion and then a solution with formulas, code, and graphics as needed. Is that something that is suitable for Wikiversity? To make it more concrete, I am thinking that the solved problem pages will look something like this article (I didn't write the article). http://freakonometrics.hypotheses.org/11018 Thanks for any light you can shed on this question. Robert Dodier

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Are "solved problems" suitable for Wikiversity?
by Robert Dodier 24 Dec '13

24 Dec '13

Hello, I am thinking of setting up one or more pages of math problems solved by Maxima, a symbolic computation system. I am imagining that there would be a main page and a page for each solved problem. Each problem page would have a brief discussion and then a solution with formulas, code, and graphics as needed. Is that something that is suitable for Wikiversity? It seems to be within the educational realm of Wikiversity, but I couldn't find anything to say whether it is definitely OK or not OK. It's not a problem if it's not OK. Thanks for any light you can shed on this question. Robert Dodier

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Re: [Wikiversity-l] Wikiversity-l Digest, Vol 67, Issue 2
by Steve Foerster 24 Dec '13

24 Dec '13

Agreed. The mention of PlanetMath, which is a good resource, was obviously meant to be a helpful response to a question asked by someone else. Even if there is a policy against mentioning external resources, no matter how relevant or good they may be, it should be rescinded. Such a policy would place the organisation over its stated goal to further education. -=Steve=- -------- Original Message -------- Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 17:13:07 +0000 From: Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com> To: Mailing list for Wikiversity <wikiversity-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wikiversity-l] Are "solved problems" suitable for Wikiversity? @jeffery, mentioning Planet math here is advertising? Really? When did that become advertising? Hmmmm, still wondering. Its not as if the link is to Joe's personal website or something. Its a website known by many. Joe is just bringing up an issue and I believe its great considering the matter than banning the matter saying its advertising. "Not an advertising group"? Apart from the mailing list of Wikiversity, where else can discussions of this sort be held? I'm in this mailing list, Wikimania, Wikipedia, and other mailing lists. Links are posted to references and stuffs like that. They're all Wikimedia mailing list, but how come such links never get categorized as adverts but are used in discussion? Is this "not advertising group" idea applied to only Wikiversity? Cmon google.com/+Nkansahrexford | sent from Tab

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Re: [Wikiversity-l] Are "solved problems" suitable for Wikiversity?
by Steve Foerster 22 Dec '13

22 Dec '13

Volunteers aren't farm animals. They cannot be poached. They are donors just like any other, who supply effort rather than money. Donors of effort certainly are not resources belonging to financial donors, and it is certainly not theft when a volunteer chooses to spend effort on one project rather than another. But that's not even the most amazing thing. That would be that you're seriously criticizing that I used the email address from the domain where I have my personal blog, just because somewhere on there is a link to a different project than this one. What does one have to do to avoid your ridiculous accusations of promotion -- use an anonymous remailer? -------- Original Message -------- Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 14:34:20 -0500 From: Jeffrey Peters <17peters(a)cardinalmail.cua.edu> To: Mailing list for Wikiversity <wikiversity-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wikiversity-l] Are "solved problems" suitable for Wikiversity? It is not about license. It is about volunteers. If you poach from Wikiversity, you should be banned. It is that simple. Our donors spend money on resources like this list. You are stealing our donors resources. That is theft.

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Re: [Wikiversity-l] Wikiversity-l Digest, Vol 67, Issue 3
by Steve Foerster 22 Dec '13

22 Dec '13

I have no relationship with PlanetMath, nor any intention of discussing other projects here, which is exactly why I didn't mention any others or even use an email address from their domain. It's just that I don't see your thinking of other projects as "competitors" as being compatible with the principles of open education, nothing more. -------- Original Message -------- Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 12:38:54 -0500 From: Jeffrey Peters <17peters(a)cardinalmail.cua.edu> To: Mailing list for Wikiversity <wikiversity-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: Wikiversity-l Digest, Vol 67, Issue 2 Also, as an FYI to others on the list - Steve Foerster founded a competitor to Wikiversity and has an extreme conflict of interest in this topic. Most likely, he doesn't even have a Wikiversity account.

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by Nazir Shaikh 22 Dec '13

22 Dec '13

Nice information forever

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