tl;dr: Please refrain from adding new strings that require translations to MediaWiki and deployed extensions until further notice.
Due to changes we are making in the way our translation systems process data we will be temporarily disabling the auto deployment of newly translated content until further notice. The goal of these changes will be to improve the evaluation of content submitted to our translation services.
This means developers should not merge new translatable strings into MediaWiki Core nor Wikimedia deployed extensions until we re-enable the system. This is to prevent longer term issues where local wiki admins overwrite a string and thus prevent updates from new and improved translations.
We apologize for any inconvenience this delay in service may cause and will alert you as soon as this maintenance is completed.
Greg Grossmeier
Hi Greg;
Thanks for the heads up. Do we have a ballpark estimate for when we can resume merging translatable strings? next week? 2019?
On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 3:20 PM Greg Grossmeier greg@wikimedia.org wrote:
tl;dr: Please refrain from adding new strings that require translations to MediaWiki and deployed extensions until further notice.
Due to changes we are making in the way our translation systems process data we will be temporarily disabling the auto deployment of newly translated content until further notice. The goal of these changes will be to improve the evaluation of content submitted to our translation services.
This means developers should not merge new translatable strings into MediaWiki Core nor Wikimedia deployed extensions until we re-enable the system. This is to prevent longer term issues where local wiki admins overwrite a string and thus prevent updates from new and improved translations.
We apologize for any inconvenience this delay in service may cause and will alert you as soon as this maintenance is completed.
Greg Grossmeier
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Since this is clearly a request to developers, I suggest posting a link to the relevant ticket(s).
Alex
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 at 23:20, Greg Grossmeier greg@wikimedia.org wrote:
tl;dr: Please refrain from adding new strings that require translations to MediaWiki and deployed extensions until further notice.
Due to changes we are making in the way our translation systems process data we will be temporarily disabling the auto deployment of newly translated content until further notice. The goal of these changes will be to improve the evaluation of content submitted to our translation services.
This means developers should not merge new translatable strings into MediaWiki Core nor Wikimedia deployed extensions until we re-enable the system. This is to prevent longer term issues where local wiki admins overwrite a string and thus prevent updates from new and improved translations.
We apologize for any inconvenience this delay in service may cause and will alert you as soon as this maintenance is completed.
Greg Grossmeier
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Best Alex !
Thank you for your work and time, getting this info out.
Take Care
// Peter.
Från: Alex Monk Skickat: den 27 september 2018 01:11 Till: Greg Grossmeier Kopia: tech-all@wikimedia.org; Wikimedia developers; engineering-l; Coordination of technology deployments across languages/projects; product-all@wikimedia.org Ämne: Re: [Wikitech-ambassadors] [Engineering] Translations on hold untilfurther notice
Since this is clearly a request to developers, I suggest posting a link to the relevant ticket(s).
Alex
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 at 23:20, Greg Grossmeier greg@wikimedia.org wrote: tl;dr: Please refrain from adding new strings that require translations to MediaWiki and deployed extensions until further notice.
Due to changes we are making in the way our translation systems process data we will be temporarily disabling the auto deployment of newly translated content until further notice. The goal of these changes will be to improve the evaluation of content submitted to our translation services.
This means developers should not merge new translatable strings into MediaWiki Core nor Wikimedia deployed extensions until we re-enable the system. This is to prevent longer term issues where local wiki admins overwrite a string and thus prevent updates from new and improved translations.
We apologize for any inconvenience this delay in service may cause and will alert you as soon as this maintenance is completed.
Greg Grossmeier
Thank you, but please stop sending the same message to the list over and over again.
On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 at 20:41, Peter T Ljungman peter.t.ljungman@gmail.com wrote:
Best Alex !
Thank you for your work and time, getting this info out.
Take Care
// Peter.
*Från: *Alex Monk krenair@gmail.com *Skickat: *den 27 september 2018 01:11 *Till: *Greg Grossmeier greg@wikimedia.org *Kopia: *tech-all@wikimedia.org; Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org; engineering-l engineering@lists.wikimedia.org; Coordination of technology deployments across languages/projects wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org; product-all@wikimedia.org *Ämne: *Re: [Wikitech-ambassadors] [Engineering] Translations on hold untilfurther notice
Since this is clearly a request to developers, I suggest posting a link to the relevant ticket(s).
Alex
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 at 23:20, Greg Grossmeier greg@wikimedia.org wrote:
tl;dr: Please refrain from adding new strings that require translations to MediaWiki and deployed extensions until further notice.
Due to changes we are making in the way our translation systems process data we will be temporarily disabling the auto deployment of newly translated content until further notice. The goal of these changes will be to improve the evaluation of content submitted to our translation services.
This means developers should not merge new translatable strings into MediaWiki Core nor Wikimedia deployed extensions until we re-enable the system. This is to prevent longer term issues where local wiki admins overwrite a string and thus prevent updates from new and improved translations.
We apologize for any inconvenience this delay in service may cause and will alert you as soon as this maintenance is completed.
Greg Grossmeier
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As I understand, nothing terrible will happen if you add new messages to en.json. But new translations will not be added, so any new interfaces will be in English for everyone, which is a poor experience.
Good news: l10n-bot appears to be exporting translations again. I assume crisis has been averted.
We managed to successfully get changes rolling through CI on Wednesday. Translations are being merged but not deployed nightly, and will go out with the normal train (next week?). Nothing has been resolved officially or announced because it's still tentative at this point. Hopefully, it's smooth sailing but we'll see. More details to come when we know for sure where we stand.
Best,
Chase
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 12:47 PM Bartosz Dziewoński matma.rex@gmail.com wrote:
Good news: l10n-bot appears to be exporting translations again. I assume crisis has been averted.
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There's no train next week. It's dc switch over.
Best
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018, 20:49 Chase Pettet cpettet@wikimedia.org wrote:
We managed to successfully get changes rolling through CI on Wednesday. Translations are being merged but not deployed nightly, and will go out with the normal train (next week?). Nothing has been resolved officially or announced because it's still tentative at this point. Hopefully, it's smooth sailing but we'll see. More details to come when we know for sure where we stand.
Best,
Chase
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 12:47 PM Bartosz Dziewoński matma.rex@gmail.com wrote:
Good news: l10n-bot appears to be exporting translations again. I assume crisis has been averted.
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Best Amir !
Thank you for your work and time, getting this info out.
Take Care
// Peter.
P.S Amir, all personal / Contact info intentionally abscent due to internets current status, White Hats, Black Hats ( are here symbols for the webs population, are the ones you know how/what/why about ) its another story all together regarding ”Grey Hats”, independent if they personally are driven by a personal agenda, if they sitting in Asia censuring the webb, if the are personal pets of a regimes dictatorial leader, or situated in Maryland at the Fort M, Langley Virginia, Tennessee, San Diego, Washington DC or London by the Themes, are all good reasons to be patient and wait for a return mail ( to see/get nfo/seek fotprints etc. ) If you just let me know i will include complete Contact info by the next mail. D.S
Take Care Be Aware and Always dare. 😊
// P.
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Från: Amir Sarabadani Skickat: den 4 oktober 2018 20:52 Till: Wikimedia developers Kopia: tech-all@wikimedia.org; Development and Operations Engineers; wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org; product-all@wikimedia.org Ämne: Re: [Wikitech-ambassadors] [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Translations onhold until further notice
There's no train next week. It's dc switch over.
Best On Thu, Oct 4, 2018, 20:49 Chase Pettet cpettet@wikimedia.org wrote: We managed to successfully get changes rolling through CI on Wednesday. Translations are being merged but not deployed nightly, and will go out with the normal train (next week?). Nothing has been resolved officially or announced because it's still tentative at this point. Hopefully, it's smooth sailing but we'll see. More details to come when we know for sure where we stand.
Best,
Chase
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 12:47 PM Bartosz Dziewoński matma.rex@gmail.com wrote:
Good news: l10n-bot appears to be exporting translations again. I assume crisis has been averted.
-- Matma Rex _______________________________________________ Engineering mailing list Engineering@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/engineering
Best Bartosz !
Thank you for your work and time, getting this info out.
Take Care
// Peter.
Från: Bartosz Dziewoński Skickat: den 4 oktober 2018 19:47 Till: Coordination of technology deployments across languages/projects Kopia: tech-all@wikimedia.org; Wikimedia developers; Development and Operations engineers; product-all@wikimedia.org Ämne: Re: [Wikitech-ambassadors] Translations on hold until further notice
Good news: l10n-bot appears to be exporting translations again. I assume crisis has been averted.
Best Greg !
Thank you for your work and time, getting this info out.
Take Care
// Peter.
Från: Greg Grossmeier Skickat: den 27 september 2018 00:20 Till: product-all@wikimedia.org; tech-all@wikimedia.org; Development and Operations engineers; Wikitech-l; Wikitech Ambassadors Ämne: [Wikitech-ambassadors] Translations on hold until further notice
tl;dr: Please refrain from adding new strings that require translations to MediaWiki and deployed extensions until further notice.
Due to changes we are making in the way our translation systems process data we will be temporarily disabling the auto deployment of newly translated content until further notice. The goal of these changes will be to improve the evaluation of content submitted to our translation services.
This means developers should not merge new translatable strings into MediaWiki Core nor Wikimedia deployed extensions until we re-enable the system. This is to prevent longer term issues where local wiki admins overwrite a string and thus prevent updates from new and improved translations.
We apologize for any inconvenience this delay in service may cause and will alert you as soon as this maintenance is completed.
Greg Grossmeier
Hello,
Thank you for bearing with us while translation updates were stopped.
We are now updating translations for Wikimedia sites with the weekly MediaWiki train based on the updates that are being provided by translatewiki.net. Feel free to add new translatable strings now.
However, during the investigation of the instigating security incident we identified architectural issues with the systems and processes that make up the nightly localization updates. This update process is currently disabled and will remain disabled until there is a clear plan and resourcing for improving the architecture. The task tracking this discussion is at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T206694 .
In the mean time new translations will go out with the weekly MediaWiki train.
Thank you for your continued understanding,
Greg
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