Dear tech ambassadors,
According to our plans, we are just a few weeks away from Wikimedia Phabricator Day 1. On that day, Bugzilla will be accessible in read-only mode, and all the bug reports will have been migrated to Phabricator. From that point, all bug reporting will be done in Phabricator.
We are very excited about this move. Phabricator provides a friendlier environment to new/casual users while offering a powerful collaboration platform for software development and project management in general -- all at once! For instance, users can edit task descriptions, one task can be assigned to more than one project (or none), and tasks can be organized in project workboards (i.e. http://fab.wmflabs.org/project/board/31/ ).
Learn about the launch at http://fab.wmflabs.org/T282. You can subscribe to this task to receive any updates.
This Day 1 is also relevant for other migrations (RT, Trello, Mingle, even Gerrit at some point) but first of all we want to make sure that the Bugzilla migration is well communicated and understood across all Wikimedia projects. For that, we need your help.
We are planning the communication activities at http://fab.wmflabs.org/T317 -- feedback and volunteers are welcome.
Learn more about Wikimedia Phabricator, and how we got to the point we are now after nine months of discussion and work: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator
If you need help using Phabricator or you see other users with problems, check/improve https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help. Support is provided at the related Talk page.
We will continue sending major updates to this list between now and Day 1. As always, we welcome your questions and feedback.
Thanks Quim, and a question about the broader components of Phabricator. Traditionally the rum by the WMF community have been considered to be in developer zone where the punters came to report issues, so all traditional development related issues. As there is going to be larger range of tools, do we see some of these being available to the community outside of the development realm? Trello-like components, and other project management aspects may have attractions for other sorts of coordinated activities.
Regards, Billinghurst
On Sun, 7 Sep 2014 11:20:09 +0200, Quim Gil qgil@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dear tech ambassadors,
According to our plans, we are just a few weeks away from Wikimedia Phabricator Day 1. On that day, Bugzilla will be accessible in read-only mode, and all the bug reports will have been migrated to Phabricator.
From
that point, all bug reporting will be done in Phabricator.
We are very excited about this move. Phabricator provides a friendlier environment to new/casual users while offering a powerful collaboration platform for software development and project management in general --
all
at once! For instance, users can edit task descriptions, one task can be assigned to more than one project (or none), and tasks can be organized
in
project workboards (i.e. http://fab.wmflabs.org/project/board/31/ ).
Learn about the launch at http://fab.wmflabs.org/T282. You can subscribe
to
this task to receive any updates.
This Day 1 is also relevant for other migrations (RT, Trello, Mingle,
even
Gerrit at some point) but first of all we want to make sure that the Bugzilla migration is well communicated and understood across all
Wikimedia
projects. For that, we need your help.
We are planning the communication activities at
-- feedback and volunteers are welcome.
Learn more about Wikimedia Phabricator, and how we got to the point we
are
now after nine months of discussion and work: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator
If you need help using Phabricator or you see other users with problems, check/improve https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help. Support
is
provided at the related Talk page.
We will continue sending major updates to this list between now and Day
1.
As always, we welcome your questions and feedback.
(As this list is not meant for discussion, I will reply to this interesting question here and now, bu then I encourage you to to ask further in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help or the alternative channel you prefer.)
On Sunday, September 7, 2014, billinghurst billinghurst@gmail.com wrote:
As there is going to be larger range of tools, do we see some of these being available to the community outside of the development realm?
This intro in the http://fab.wmflabs.org homepage answers to your questions, and it will be kept in the Wikimedia Phabricator instance in production:
Getting Things Done
Wikimedia Phabricator is a collaboration platform to plan projects,
complete tasks, and solve problems. Building
better open source software is our primary purpose. Non-technical
projects are welcome as well.
So yes, the door is open, and technically there is nothing stopping to non-technical teams to request a Phabricator project already now. However, currently we are not pitching this idea strongly because we expect enough... entropy with the huge wave of Bugzilla users that will come at once by Day 1. We'd rather let these tech users smooth the path for the rest.
Conclusion: let's focus first in making sure that Phabricator works as a replacement of Bugzilla, a goal that undoubtedly will help non-technical users and projects in the near future.
Quim, can you point me to a well-written, useful page that describes the steps needed to report a bug in Phabricator? This needs to include the steps to register an account (assuming that is necessary) all the way through to how to link to the bug on the WM wiki where it may be being discussed.
Risker/Anne
On 7 September 2014 06:39, Quim Gil qgil@wikimedia.org wrote:
(As this list is not meant for discussion, I will reply to this interesting question here and now, bu then I encourage you to to ask further in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help or the alternative channel you prefer.)
On Sunday, September 7, 2014, billinghurst billinghurst@gmail.com wrote:
As there is going to be larger range of tools, do we see some of these being available to the community outside of the development realm?
This intro in the http://fab.wmflabs.org homepage answers to your questions, and it will be kept in the Wikimedia Phabricator instance in production:
Getting Things Done
Wikimedia Phabricator is a collaboration platform to plan projects,
complete tasks, and solve problems. Building
better open source software is our primary purpose. Non-technical
projects are welcome as well.
So yes, the door is open, and technically there is nothing stopping to non-technical teams to request a Phabricator project already now. However, currently we are not pitching this idea strongly because we expect enough... entropy with the huge wave of Bugzilla users that will come at once by Day 1. We'd rather let these tech users smooth the path for the rest.
Conclusion: let's focus first in making sure that Phabricator works as a replacement of Bugzilla, a goal that undoubtedly will help non-technical users and projects in the near future.
-- Quim Gil Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil
Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
By the sounds of it, the logging on will (probably) be done with your regular Wikipedia account. I suspect linking will be done with a phabricator: prefix. I've looked at the beta version, and it seems easy enough to report bugs, and seems like an improvement on the old system.
Mdann52
-----Original Message----- From: "Risker" risker.wp@gmail.com Sent: 07/09/2014 13:43 To: "Coordination of technology deployments across languages/projects" wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikitech-ambassadors] Phabricator is coming,Bugzilla is leaving
Quim, can you point me to a well-written, useful page that describes the steps needed to report a bug in Phabricator? This needs to include the steps to register an account (assuming that is necessary) all the way through to how to link to the bug on the WM wiki where it may be being discussed.
Risker/Anne
On 7 September 2014 06:39, Quim Gil qgil@wikimedia.org wrote:
(As this list is not meant for discussion, I will reply to this interesting question here and now, bu then I encourage you to to ask further in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help or the alternative channel you prefer.)
On Sunday, September 7, 2014, billinghurst billinghurst@gmail.com wrote:
As there is going to be larger range of tools, do we see some of these being available to the community outside of the development realm?
This intro in the http://fab.wmflabs.org homepage answers to your questions, and it will be kept in the Wikimedia Phabricator instance in production:
Getting Things Done
Wikimedia Phabricator is a collaboration platform to plan projects, complete tasks, and solve problems. Building better open source software is our primary purpose. Non-technical projects are welcome as well.
So yes, the door is open, and technically there is nothing stopping to non-technical teams to request a Phabricator project already now. However, currently we are not pitching this idea strongly because we expect enough... entropy with the huge wave of Bugzilla users that will come at once by Day 1. We'd rather let these tech users smooth the path for the rest.
Conclusion: let's focus first in making sure that Phabricator works as a replacement of Bugzilla, a goal that undoubtedly will help non-technical users and projects in the near future.
Matthew, thank you for your comments. Turns out your first one isn't correct; I had to register an account; neither my former Bugzilla credentials nor my wikimedia-project credentials worked there.
RIsker/Anne
On 7 September 2014 08:55, Matthew Dann mdann52@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
By the sounds of it, the logging on will (probably) be done with your regular Wikipedia account. I suspect linking will be done with a phabricator: prefix. I've looked at the beta version, and it seems easy enough to report bugs, and seems like an improvement on the old system.
Mdann52
From: Risker risker.wp@gmail.com Sent: 07/09/2014 13:43 To: Coordination of technology deployments across languages/projects wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikitech-ambassadors] Phabricator is coming,Bugzilla is leaving
Quim, can you point me to a well-written, useful page that describes the steps needed to report a bug in Phabricator? This needs to include the steps to register an account (assuming that is necessary) all the way through to how to link to the bug on the WM wiki where it may be being discussed.
Risker/Anne
On 7 September 2014 06:39, Quim Gil qgil@wikimedia.org wrote:
(As this list is not meant for discussion, I will reply to this interesting question here and now, bu then I encourage you to to ask further in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help or the alternative channel you prefer.)
On Sunday, September 7, 2014, billinghurst billinghurst@gmail.com wrote:
As there is going to be larger range of tools, do we see some of these being available to the community outside of the development realm?
This intro in the http://fab.wmflabs.org homepage answers to your questions, and it will be kept in the Wikimedia Phabricator instance in production:
Getting Things Done
Wikimedia Phabricator is a collaboration platform to plan projects,
complete tasks, and solve problems. Building
better open source software is our primary purpose. Non-technical
projects are welcome as well.
So yes, the door is open, and technically there is nothing stopping to non-technical teams to request a Phabricator project already now. However, currently we are not pitching this idea strongly because we expect enough... entropy with the huge wave of Bugzilla users that will come at once by Day 1. We'd rather let these tech users smooth the path for the rest.
Conclusion: let's focus first in making sure that Phabricator works as a replacement of Bugzilla, a goal that undoubtedly will help non-technical users and projects in the near future.
-- Quim Gil Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil
Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
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Ok; I know they were planning that feature. Not sure if that's been abandoned, or just not deployed yet.
Matthew Dann
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On 7 Sep 2014, at 14:05, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
Matthew, thank you for your comments. Turns out your first one isn't correct; I had to register an account; neither my former Bugzilla credentials nor my wikimedia-project credentials worked there.
RIsker/Anne
On 7 September 2014 08:55, Matthew Dann mdann52@yahoo.co.uk wrote: By the sounds of it, the logging on will (probably) be done with your regular Wikipedia account. I suspect linking will be done with a phabricator: prefix. I've looked at the beta version, and it seems easy enough to report bugs, and seems like an improvement on the old system.
Mdann52 From: Risker Sent: 07/09/2014 13:43 To: Coordination of technology deployments across languages/projects Subject: Re: [Wikitech-ambassadors] Phabricator is coming,Bugzilla is leaving
Quim, can you point me to a well-written, useful page that describes the steps needed to report a bug in Phabricator? This needs to include the steps to register an account (assuming that is necessary) all the way through to how to link to the bug on the WM wiki where it may be being discussed.
Risker/Anne
On 7 September 2014 06:39, Quim Gil qgil@wikimedia.org wrote: (As this list is not meant for discussion, I will reply to this interesting question here and now, bu then I encourage you to to ask further in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help or the alternative channel you prefer.)
On Sunday, September 7, 2014, billinghurst billinghurst@gmail.com wrote:
As there is going to be larger range of tools, do we see some of these being available to the community outside of the development realm?
This intro in the http://fab.wmflabs.org homepage answers to your questions, and it will be kept in the Wikimedia Phabricator instance in production:
Getting Things Done
Wikimedia Phabricator is a collaboration platform to plan projects, complete tasks, and solve problems. Building better open source software is our primary purpose. Non-technical projects are welcome as well.
So yes, the door is open, and technically there is nothing stopping to non-technical teams to request a Phabricator project already now. However, currently we are not pitching this idea strongly because we expect enough... entropy with the huge wave of Bugzilla users that will come at once by Day 1. We'd rather let these tech users smooth the path for the rest.
Conclusion: let's focus first in making sure that Phabricator works as a replacement of Bugzilla, a goal that undoubtedly will help non-technical users and projects in the near future.
-- Quim Gil Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil
Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
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On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 15:05:10 +0200, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
Matthew, thank you for your comments. Turns out your first one isn't correct; I had to register an account; neither my former Bugzilla credentials nor my wikimedia-project credentials worked there.
fab.wmflabs.org is not connected to central login (SUL). However, the functionality seems to have been implemented (http://fab.wmflabs.org/T314), and it seems that it's going to be available on the production Phabricator since day one.
On 09/07/2014 03:18 PM, Bartosz Dziewoński wrote:
fab.wmflabs.org is not connected to central login (SUL). However, the functionality seems to have been implemented (http://fab.wmflabs.org/T314), and it seems that it's going to be available on the production Phabricator since day one.
This is correct. The only ways to login in the production Phabricator will be:
1. Your Wikimedia account (I think MediaWiki.org specifically, but if you have a global account, it's all the same anyway), via OAuth. This option will be used by most people. 2. LDAP
Matt Flaschen
On Sunday, September 7, 2014, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
Quim, can you point me to a well-written, useful page that describes the steps needed to report a bug in Phabricator? This needs to include the steps to register an account (assuming that is necessary)
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help#Signing_in
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help#Creating_a_task
I'm not sure about the well-written part, but you can help.
Creating tasks is actually pretty simple. Only title and description are required. CC and Projects are optional. That's it, off you go.
The Wikimedia sign in doesn't work in the Labs instance (no https in Labs) but you can test it at https://legalpad.wikimedia.org
all the way through to how to link to the bug on the WM wiki where it may be being discussed.
Pending (help from template & gadget ninjas is welcome):
Port {{tracked}} gadget to query Phabricator API http://fab.wmflabs.org/T285
On 9/7/14, Quim Gil qgil@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dear tech ambassadors,
According to our plans, we are just a few weeks away from Wikimedia Phabricator Day 1. On that day, Bugzilla will be accessible in read-only mode, and all the bug reports will have been migrated to Phabricator. From that point, all bug reporting will be done in Phabricator.
Is there an actual day set? All I seem to be able to find is a vague - maybe end of september beginning of october.
--bawolff
On Sunday, September 7, 2014, Brian Wolff <bawolff@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','bawolff@gmail.com');> wrote:
On 9/7/14, Quim Gil qgil@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dear tech ambassadors,
According to our plans, we are just a few weeks away from Wikimedia Phabricator Day 1. On that day, Bugzilla will be accessible in read-only mode, and all the bug reports will have been migrated to Phabricator.
From
that point, all bug reporting will be done in Phabricator.
Is there an actual day set? All I seem to be able to find is a vague - maybe end of september beginning of october.
The draft timeline says "Sept 29 - Oct 3: Bugzilla migration" and this reflects the best of our knowledge today. http://fab.wmflabs.org/T282
As soon as we commit to a firm date we will share them with you.
wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org