portal only shows results for the
language that you're currently searching in (which can be changed by
selecting a new language in the dropdown located in the search box). We
don't yet have the ability to search in all wikis at once but we'd like to
have that capability in the future.
I agree completely with your second point, the language question is a
difficult one. We have so many English readers that the search box is used
quite a bit on the portal, but quite a few other visitors click on one of
the primary language links around the globe and then (presumably) do their
search on that particular wiki. We visualize this information on our Portal
Dashboard <http://discovery.wmflabs.org/portal/#action_breakdown>, if
you're curious to find out more.
We fully intend to use
to help with our sister project
descriptive text once we get the framework setup on the Portal side to
incorporate the push files from translatewiki as they get updated.
Thanks again for the questions and compliments! :)
Cheers,
Deb
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Wikimedia Foundation
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 6:33 PM, Romaine Wiki <romaine.wiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Deb,
Thanks!
I just realised that also the search bar is based on detected language.
This is logic, but at the same time I miss the option to search in all
Wikipedias at once, instead of only the one language.
The question about the language is a bit complex for me, especially the
second part/option of the question. I am just thinking that if I visit an
internet café or I use the laptop from an other language speaking friend, I
would like the option to read the page in my own language, instead of the
browsers language. Of course the detected language is a good starting point
for most people.
If I visit the portal page and I see a search option, and I do want to
search something, I would try the search on the portal page. (But I am 100%
sure that other people see their own language mentioned first and click on
it.)
About the to be translated text from sister projects, can
translatewiki.net be used as for many other translations of system
messages?
Thanks for the work! :-)
Romaine
2016-06-07 17:51 GMT+02:00 Deborah Tankersley <dtankersley(a)wikimedia.org>rg>:
Hi Romaine,
We're glad you like the new page functionality! I've opened up a ticket
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137215> to fix the Dutch phrase
translation typo, thanks for letting us know. :)
For your comment about adding in an option to change the language, I'm
curious about something, as this has come up before. Would you prefer to
use the portal page in the language that is detected (as we do now) or in a
different language but not actually searching on that language's wiki?
For instance, if your preferred language is Dutch: would it make sense
for you to click on that language link on the portal page to go to
nl.wikipedia.org and then do a search? Or, even if the browser's
language is detected as Dutch (nl) would you rather use the portal page to
search in a different language, like English?
Yes, thanks for asking, the sister project links will be translated and
we have a ticket <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136441> open to get
that started. We wanted the descriptive text to be visible on the page to
give more insight into the sister projects, even though we don't have the
text translated yet.
Cheers,
Deb
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Deb Tankersley
Product Manager, Discovery
Wikimedia Foundation
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 5:13 AM, Romaine Wiki <romaine.wiki(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi Deb,
Great improvement!
Looking at the page, I only notice one major error. My language is Dutch
(nl), and so my browser/computer system is set that way. However the phrase
is spelled wrong: it says: "De vrieje encyclopedie" while it should say
"De
vrije encyclopedie". So: vrieje -> vrije. "vrieje" is not a Dutch word.
Can
this be fixed?
Further I would recommend one thing to be added to the page. Because
large parts of the word visit Wikipedia through internet cafés and
computers elsewhere, I would suggest in the top right/left corner an option
to change the language.
And one final question: will the bottom section of the page also be
translatable?
Thanks!
Romaine
2016-06-07 0:05 GMT+02:00 Deborah Tankersley <dtankersley(a)wikimedia.org>
:
Hello,
The Discovery team recently updated the
wikipedia.org portal page to
detect what the visitor's browser's preferred language(s) are and then
arrange the language links around the globe to match those language
preferences.
Earlier this year, we ran a successful A/B test
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipedia.org_Portal_A/B_testing#A.2FB_test:_browser_language_detection_.28completed.29>
that proved promoting our visitor's preferred languages resulted in
increased visibility and interest into these projects. Also, the display of
'*The Free Encyclopedia*' phrase is now localized to the visitor's
first preferred browser language. If there isn't a translation available,
the phrase will be displayed in English (view a screenshot
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3AWikipedia_portal_top_10_links_re-sort.png>)
as it currently is today.
Additionally, a new A/B test
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipedia.org_Portal_A/B_testing#A.2FB_test:_languages_by_article_count_.28in_progress.29>
will kick
off this week to determine if the listing of languages by article count can
be displayed in a more modern and streamlined way without decreasing usage
of the links. Our goal is to promote easy scrolling through the long list
of languages by article count, but in a dropdown format while also
providing greater discovery of the sister wiki project links.
More information on past and future work can be found on the wiki page
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipedia.org_Portal> as well as the
sprint <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/discovery-portal-sprint/>
and backlog
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/discovery-portal-backlog/>
boards. We're always interested in receiving constructive feedback
from the community: if you have a question or comment, please start a discussion
on the talk page
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Wikipedia.org_Portal>.
Cheers,
Deb
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Deb Tankersley
Product Manager, Discovery
Wikimedia Foundation
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