Hi,
Interested in details of Research Coordinator job description and
responsibilities.
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address:
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Thanks for all your efforts!
Paulscrawl
Perhaps a more attainable goal would be for Wikipedians to gain access to
books NOT UNDER COPYRIGHT that Google has scanned and restricted. Pretty
much everything 1922 and earlier they have been good about making public
(1908 and earlier for the UK) but there are a vast number of titles which
are copyright clear for this reason or that for the 1923 to 1973 period
that they have hidden behind "snippet view." There is absolutely no
plausible copyright reason for them acting thus and that case might be made
much more easily than a dubious appeal to release files of copyrighted
materials because Wikipedians are on the side of the angels.
Just a thought.
Tim Davenport
Corvallis, OR
"Carrite" on WP
Hi,
I have a little idea that could be really helpful for Wikipedians if it
could be implemented. Google has scanned in a vast collection of books
<http://www.google.com/googlebooks/library/>. Some of these scanned pages
can be read online via Google Books, and serves an important resource for
Wikipedians confirming the verifiability of text added to Wikipedia.
However, many of the scanned pages can *not* be read: in some cases only an
arbitrary selection of pages in a given book can be read, which may not be
the ones need; in other cases, pages can not be read at all or they can
only be searched in the severely limited "Snippet View".
Now, there are good reasons why this is the case. The books copyrighted,
and the rightsholders do not want to give their most important goods away
for free to anyone on the internet. However, given Google's support for
Wikipedia, and for the open dissemination of knowledge, could Wikipedia
Library perhaps approach Google and request a much more limited
arrangement, like the ones it has with various journals?
Full access to all books in the Google Books Library Project would be
utopic. But even a limited deal where a short range of pages can be
requested for each book would be extremely helpful, because page numbers
are specified countless references on Wikipedia via the {{cite book}}
template - we just do not have a way to easily get those pages. Yet.
Thank you,
Anders Feder
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(sorry this conversation is happening across multiple lists, I should have
used cc for the emails... )
Responding to Mitar on open access:
You know I think it's sad too that we have to go around asking for
donations and selling Wikipedia's value as a portal to publishers. On the
other hand, we have 500 million monthly readers and when they come to
Wikipedia they will see the content we have summarized from sources. The
only question is whether that content is from full-text-available-online
sources *only*, or from all of the best sources regardless of their access
status.
At the end of my day, I have to serve our editors and readers as best I can
and that means giving them as much access to the best research as possible
today. You may think this is a devil's bargain, but I have to admit that
I'm a pragmatist and I'd rather have our editors summarize paywalled
content for our readers than for that content to not be represented on
Wikipedia at all, even if readers may hit a paywall when they click-through.
It's long been Wikipedia's policy (at least English Wikipedia) that
accessibility is not a deciding factor when it comes to what is a reliable
source. That applies to out of print manuscripts as well as to embargoed
journals--we use the best sources now because we have an encyclopedia to
write. If we aim to change that, it requires a very deep discussion about
how we prioritize and strategize our mission.
I do whatever I can to support OA, to tweet about open access button
efforts, to promote WikiProject Resource Exchange, to support the OA
signalling project, to engage with initiatives like the Open Access reader,
and to discuss the broader mission of sharing knowledge with reference
experts and journals. The tides are changing and I see it daily as I speak
with librarians and journal publishers.
In other words, the efforts of The Wikipedia Library advance our mission
and are indeed *complementary* to the radical vision of open access that I
wholeheartedly support.
So, I hope you take this as my saying, "I agree completely" and also "So
what, we have an encyclopedia to write!"
Happy to continue discussing this.
Best,
Jake (Ocaasi)
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Mitar <mmitar(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> This reminds me of ugly practices of proprietary software companies
> giving free software to students so that they are able to learn the
> tools and then later on have to pay. So we will be making links to
> paywalled journals and we will be able to do it for free, but then our
> readers will have to pay to read them? So Wikipedia will provide free
> advertisements for paywalled content? Nicely done, nicely done.
>
> This is not open access. This direct opposite to open access. We
> should not be proud of this.
>
> (Please don't take this as an attack on anybody personally and I think
> The Wikipedia Library Team is doing a great job, but I really feel
> this is a bad deal. And it was sent to the open access mailing list.
> Which this is not.)
>
>
> Mitar
>
> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Jake Orlowitz <jorlowitz(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi!
> > The Wikipedia Library has new, free research donations available:
> >
> > NEW
> > *DeGruyter: 1000 accounts for English and German-language research, sign
> up
> > on one of two language Wikipedias:
> > English signup <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:De_Gruyter>
> > German signup <https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:De_Gruyter>
> > *Fold3: 100 accounts for American history and military archives
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Fold3>
> > *Scotland's People: 100 accounts for Scottish Genealogy database
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ScotlandsPeople>
> >
> > EXPANDED
> > *British Newspaper Archive: 100+ new accounts for British Newspapers
> > archives
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BNA>
> >
> > OPEN
> > *Highbeam: 100+ accounts for newspapers and magazines
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:HighBeam>
> > *Questia: 100+ accounts for various aggregated journals and social
> science
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Questia>
> > *JSTOR: 100+ accounts for journal archives
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:JSTOR>
> >
> > Accounts are available to ALL global editors with a 1 year old account
> and
> > 1000 edits. Please notify your local community about the signups.
> Signups
> > for now are mostly on English Wikipedia, UNLESS you have started a local
> > Wikipedia Library branch like we've done on Arabic, Chinese, and
> German. To
> > get started, please contact Ocaasi at [[m:User:Ocaasi (WMF)]] or
> > ocaasi(a)wikimedia.org
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > The Wikipedia Library Team
> > <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikipedia_Library>
> >
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