Thanks!
2015-05-19 19:02 GMT+02:00 Dan Brickley <danbri(a)google.com>om>:
On 19 May 2015 at 17:56, Anders Feder
<anders.feder.83(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I figured you had already explored that area :) I
sadly do not know
anyone
at Google, but noticed the prominent googler Dan
Brickley (danbri) is
subscribed to this list. If this message isn't buried in your mailbox,
can
you help, Dan?
I was following the thread with interest, as it happens. I have had
only limited contact with the Google Books team since I joined Google,
so I may not be the best contact. But anyway I'll pass
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-library/2015-May/000012.html
along. As already noted here, the project is in quite a complex
situation but that's no reason not to ask...
cheers,
Dan
Regards,
Anders Feder
2015-05-19 18:41 GMT+02:00 Jake Orlowitz <jorlowitz(a)gmail.com>om>:
>
> Hi Anders,
>
> Thanks for you suggestion. I can assure you that [increased] Google
Books
> access has been our dream from the start.
It's very complicated
because of
> the contentious legal situation that
surrounded the massive scanning
and
> limited sharing Google has been doing.
Because of that, we haven't
> prioritized increased access, however we haven't given up on the
possibility
> of it one day happening. One thing that
would be helpful is a personal
> contact with someone at Google who works on the Books program. If you
know
> of any Google-connected Wikipedians, please
put us in touch.
>
> Jake Orlowitz
> Lead, The Wikipedia Library
> User:Ocaasi
>
> On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 6:31 AM Anders Feder <
anders.feder.83(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a little idea that could be really helpful for Wikipedians if
it
>> could be implemented. Google has scanned
in a vast collection of
books. Some
>> of these scanned pages can be read online
via Google Books, and
serves an
>> important resource for Wikipedians
confirming the verifiability of
text
>> added to Wikipedia. However, many of the
scanned pages can not be
read: in
>> some cases only an arbitrary selection of
pages in a given book can
be read,
>> which may not be the ones need; in other
cases, pages can not be read
at all
>> or they can only be searched in the
severely limited "Snippet View".
>>
>> Now, there are good reasons why this is the case. The books
copyrighted,
>> and the rightsholders do not want to give
their most important goods
away
>> for free to anyone on the internet.
However, given Google's support
for
>> Wikipedia, and for the open dissemination
of knowledge, could
Wikipedia
>> Library perhaps approach Google and
request a much more limited
arrangement,
>> like the ones it has with various
journals?
>>
>> Full access to all books in the Google Books Library Project would be
>> utopic. But even a limited deal where a short range of pages can be
>> requested for each book would be extremely helpful, because page
numbers
are
>> specified countless references on
Wikipedia via the {{cite book}}
template -
> we
just do not have a way to easily get those pages. Yet.
>
> Thank you,
> Anders Feder
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