Dear WPL colleagues,
Thank you for responding to my query about making approaches to Academia.edu. I really appreciate having sensible advice. Your feedback indicates caution, and raises the possibility that there may be little to be gained from an arrangement with them; I will go ahead and make queries, especially about the legal side and the user agreement as would relate to WPL access, but shall make no commitments. I'll bring their response back to the list for consideration.
Regards,
James
James McArdle
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 11:48:41 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Wikipedia Library] Wikipedia-Library Digest, Vol 10,
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Just a hint.
Being a payable article does not mean that it is not open access.
My own experience is that some journals when submitting your article will put a"time frame" for the article. For example 6 years, after that the author can share the article unrestricted. So some authors upload thier articles to academia.edu.
Also there is now awealth of open access journals and of open access articles in non-open access journals.
Regards,
Ahmed Shawky Mohammedin
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> Hi,
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> In relation to Open Access papers, I'm wondering if WPL has had dealings with Academia.edu? (I'm new to WPL). Their website makes available papers across all disciplines by current academics who are subscribed.
>
> Outsiders can see a few recommended articles, but there is a wealth of material hidden from them. I have contacts there as I am one of their recommending editors.
>
> Can you tell me from your experience, is it worthwhile exploring whether of access can be provided to,or via, WPL for our users?
> Regards,
> James
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> James McArdle
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> From: "Paul S. Wilson" <paulscrawl(a)gmail.com>
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> Interesting question, James.
>
> Academia.edu serves millions as a personal repository for their academic
> preprints (usually legal) and published versions (often not so) - the
> question is, do we dare risk such when institutional depositories with
> vetting of allowable content are readily available?
>
> As an experiment, [[Academia.edu]] article has a cited reference to
> paywalled content (footnote #11 as of today) to which I've appended a link
> to the preprint version of the article on academia.edu, noting "/*
> Reception */ + "Academia.edu preprint" (with differing pagination from
> canonical published version; other editorial changes likely) of Thelwall &
> Kousha (2012)".
>
> Per Academia.edu's voluminous [https://www.academia.edu/terms terms of
> use], such "Member Content" is severely restricted.
>
> Would be interested in gaining access to site content, if TWL can negotiate
> - or learn to live with - latter.
>
> Paul S. Wilson
> Research Coordinator
> The Wikipedia Library
Hi,
In relation to Open Access papers, I'm wondering if WPL has had dealings with Academia.edu? (I'm new to WPL). Their website makes available papers across all disciplines by current academics who are subscribed.
Outsiders can see a few recommended articles, but there is a wealth of material hidden from them. I have contacts there as I am one of their recommending editors.
Can you tell me from your experience, is it worthwhile exploring whether of access can be provided to,or via, WPL for our users?
Regards,
James
James McArdle
Just a hint.
Being a payable article does not mean that it is not open access.
My own experience is that some journals when submitting your article will put a"time frame" for the article. For example 6 years, after that the author can share the article unrestricted. So some authors upload thier articles to academia.edu.
Also there is now awealth of open access journals and of open access articles in non-open access journals.
Regards,
Ahmed Shawky Mohammedin
User:ashashyou
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On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 3:04 PM EEST wikipedia-library-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org wrote:
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>Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 23:24:29 +1000
>From: James McArdle <jmcardle(a)vic.chariot.net.au>
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>Hi,
>
>In relation to Open Access papers, I'm wondering if WPL has had dealings with Academia.edu? (I'm new to WPL). Their website makes available papers across all disciplines by current academics who are subscribed.
>
>Outsiders can see a few recommended articles, but there is a wealth of material hidden from them. I have contacts there as I am one of their recommending editors.
>
>Can you tell me from your experience, is it worthwhile exploring whether of access can be provided to,or via, WPL for our users?
>Regards,
>James
>
>James McArdle
>
>
>
>
>
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>Message: 2
>Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 11:27:41 -0500
>From: "Paul S. Wilson" <paulscrawl(a)gmail.com>
>To: Mailing list for the Wikipedia Library project
> <wikipedia-library(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
>Subject: Re: [Wikipedia Library] OA
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>Interesting question, James.
>
>Academia.edu serves millions as a personal repository for their academic
>preprints (usually legal) and published versions (often not so) - the
>question is, do we dare risk such when institutional depositories with
>vetting of allowable content are readily available?
>
>As an experiment, [[Academia.edu]] article has a cited reference to
>paywalled content (footnote #11 as of today) to which I've appended a link
>to the preprint version of the article on academia.edu, noting "/*
>Reception */ + "Academia.edu preprint" (with differing pagination from
>canonical published version; other editorial changes likely) of Thelwall &
>Kousha (2012)".
>
>Per Academia.edu's voluminous [https://www.academia.edu/terms terms of
>use], such "Member Content" is severely restricted.
>
>Would be interested in gaining access to site content, if TWL can negotiate
>- or learn to live with - latter.
>
>Paul S. Wilson
>Research Coordinator
>The Wikipedia Library
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 8:24 AM, James McArdle <jmcardle(a)vic.chariot.net.au>
>wrote:
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>> Hi,
>>
>> In relation to Open Access papers, I'm wondering if WPL has had dealings
>> with Academia.edu? (I'm new to WPL). Their website makes available papers
>> across all disciplines by current academics who are subscribed.
>>
>> Outsiders can see a few recommended articles, but there is a wealth of
>> material hidden from them. I have contacts there as I am one of their
>> recommending editors.
>>
>> Can you tell me from your experience, is it worthwhile exploring whether
>> of access can be provided to,or via, WPL for our users?
>> Regards,
>> James
>>
>> James McArdle
>>
>>
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Hi,
I think Scholar is a good option, may it be best if we use Scholar button (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/google-scholar-button/ ; https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/google-scholar-button/ldipcbpaoce…), looking for the paper title. We can use DOAJ (www.doaj.org) if we are looking for quality open access papers (not in predatory journals)
Jesús
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Hi all,
There has been quite discussion on a French list I am subscribing to regarding the latest partnership with elsevier (and I suspect we can expect a lot of attraction with this new partnership ...)
One of the interesting question raised was: is there any plan to try to automatically find, when. There is a pay walled article referenced somewhere, if an OA version exists, and if yes update the link.
I think it should be covered by TWL, if it doesn't exist yet. Do you know anything about any initiative of that kind ?
Thanks,
Sylvain
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