Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 00:12:46 +0300 From: wanjaustev(a)gmail.com To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org; wanjaustev(a)gmail.com Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WMKE Articles & Memorandum of Association (Semi-final draft) hello wikimedians, My suggestions on the draft AOA and MOA. *Appeal to be registered. One year to appeal for registration is quite a long time and I think we should reduce that to three months unless the reason for denial is very 'Heavy'. BTW, What would be the possible grounds to be denied membership?? Someone enlighten me. *The quorum. Since the members shall be meeting at least thrice in a year, I propose we take the quorum to be 11 members or a tenth of all our members which ever is lower. ( My reason being that, volunteering in Kenya is quite expensive and we would not want to strain ourselves as we volunteer and I also believe and hope that everything discussed shall be availed later to members) Echoing Ann, the board members are also included in the quorum. Voting * I think vote by proxy is not good. If the voter is not present at the time of voting they should forfeit their vote. * Tier breaker vote should not be on the shoulders of the person leading the voting exercise. This is because as the one over seeing the election they should remain neutral and the matter would rather be reffered to the board to decide. I would strongly suggest that the members vote again. The overseer should be non partisan. Thanks, Steve. On 6/7/11, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for soptting that typo! Will correct it asap:) > > Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 17:55:43 +0300 > From: wanjaustev(a)gmail.com > To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WMKE Articles & Memorandum of Association > (Semi-final draft) > > hi, > > Are we registering as 'WIKIMIDIA KENYA' or 'WIKIMEDIA KENYA' > > I think there is some error there in the AOA and MOA. > > cheers > > stephen w. wanjau > > Phone: +254 771 557 857 > > twitter:haha_wanjau > > B.Sc statistics and computer science. > > JKUAT > > On Jun 7, 2011 4:42 PM, "Ann Njeri" <njeriannk(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> i think both ordinary and board members should be included in the >> quorum. > >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Ann, >>> >>> I think basing quorum on the number of people subscribed to the >>> mailing > >>> list is rather vague, since there are a whole bunch of people who've >>> subscribed but have never posted on this mailing list nor attended any >>> meetup. Also, should quorum consist of ordinary members only or board > >>> members only or a mix of both? >>> >>> --Abbas. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 12:52:32 +0300 >>> From: njeriannk(a)gmail.com > >>> To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WMKE Articles & Memorandum of >>> Association >>> (Semi-final draft) > >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> i think the articles look great. Awesome job. i think it is easier to >>> make >>> a decision on the quorum if we Abbas can tell us the members we have >>> currently. Based on my estimation of the members i would think 10 >>> people >>> are > >>> enough for the quorum. >>> As for the proxy, i think it would be better to limit them to only >>> Wikimedia Kenya members. By this i mean that non-members should not be >>> given >>> chances to be proxies, only members. > >>> Lastly i suggest that from our experience we just write down the >>> duties >>> our project managers performed during the pilot plus a few others. >>> This >>> includes, writing reports on the project, being accountable for the >>> money > >>> entrusted among other duties. >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Abbas Mahmood >>> <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com>wrote;wrote: >>> >>> Greetings, > >>> >>> I have finally managed to get in touch with the advocate and managed >>> to >>> get >>> a draft of the articles of association. My apologies for the delay. I >>> have >>> the following comments regarding the attached document: > >>> >>> >>> - it is a draft copy, so please have a look at it and feel free to >>> share your thoughts. If there is something left out, kindly let me >>> know. If >>> you need the lawyer to clarify some articles, I will be happy to >>> schedule a > >>> meeting with him so that he can clarify the articles as >>> appropriate. >>> - I particularly need your input in: >>> >>> >>> 1. Quorum. I remember that the first time I had drated these >>> bylaws, > >>> Oliver had raised an issue on quorum. What kind of quorum do you >>> think >>> is >>> sufficient for meetings? >>> 2. Proxy. The lawyer has attached a proxy sample in the articles. >>> Please do tell me if you find it necessary for us to leave it >>> there. > >>> 3. The duties of the project manager. >>> >>> >>> Looking forward to getting your feedback. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Abbas. >>> >>> ps - the next phase after us agreeing on this document is to resubmit >>> it >>> to > >>> the Chapters Committee for approval. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> WikimediaKE mailing list >>> WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org > >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ WikimediaKE mailing >>> list > >>> WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> WikimediaKE mailing list >>> WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake > >>> >>> > > > > _______________________________________________ > WikimediaKE mailing list > WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake -- Mr. Stephen W. 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