It would be easier to manage users' assumptions if we officially defined reliability (and latency, availability, etc.) for our various environments.
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
Strictly-speaking "production" is the "primary" cluster but the point here is about the reliability users assume around a service rather than the reliability it has.
On 17 June 2015 at 12:09, James Douglas jdouglas@wikimedia.org wrote:
Do we have our definition of production posted anywhere?
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Is it running for a really long time? Is it designed to not fall over? Is it no longer being actively looked at with the look you give a rickety Jenga tower because you're confident it's bug-free? Are users being pointed at it without caveats? Then it's production.
On 16 June 2015 at 21:52, Max Semenik maxsem.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Explain what? Everything we have in labs is for experimentation and prototyping. It should not be used for prod.
16 июня 2015 г. 18:16 пользователь "Oliver Keyes" <
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Max, could you explain that?
On 16 June 2015 at 20:28, Max Semenik maxsem.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Maps is not going to be production-like.
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Kevin Smith <ksmith@wikimedia.org
wrote: > > In a recent meeting, Oliver expressed concerns about us having > services > running in labs which are treated sort of like they were in > production. > Examples include WDQS (already) and maps (potentially). > > We agreed to have this discussion on the mailing list, so this is
an
> invitation to do so. I am not familiar enough with the various > technical > issues to explain them properly, so hopefully someone else will
step
> in > and > do so. I believe one big area of concern is analytics. > > > Kevin Smith > Agile Coach > Wikimedia Foundation > > > Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share > in > the > sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment. Help us make it a > reality. > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-search mailing list > Wikimedia-search@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-search >
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