Wikimedia-search May 2015

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New proposal for recurring meetings
by Kevin Smith 03 Jun '15

03 Jun '15

Based on input from the developers, Wes, and Dan, and others, here is a new proposal for a new slate of Search & Discovery vertical recurring meetings[1]. These changes really can't take full effect until the first week of June, due to the Hackathon and related travel. But hopefully we can agree on them now, and start to get them scheduled. After trying the new scheme out for a couple weeks, we'll have a retrospective so we can adjust as needed. The days-of-week proposed here are not set in stone, but they seemed logical. They came out of an attempt to stack meetings (as requested by Nik and others), combined with a sense that Monday and Friday are not ideal days for certain types of meetings, plus a recognition that finding huge blocks of time on our schedules may be challenging. Basically, if you are a developer, you'll have twice-weekly 15-minute sub-team standups, plus the weekly 25-minute full-vertical checkin. Every 2-4 weeks, you might be involved in a retrospective and/or showcase. That's a total of about 1 hour of meetings per week. Dan and I crave meetings[2], so we'll enjoy about 6.5 hours per week. The "leads" among you will have meeting loads somewhere in between those extremes. Any concerns? Violent outbursts? Purrs of contentment? [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Search_and_Discovery/Process#Recurring_Meeti… [2] Not really, but we'll pretend we do Kevin Smith Agile Coach Wikimedia Foundation *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment. Help us make it a reality.*

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wdqs beta updater performance data
by Stas Malyshev 03 Jun '15

03 Jun '15

Hi! Just in case anybody finds it interesting/useful, I've made a quick performance analysis on the update service we're running on wdqs-beta, in order to catch up with the wikidata updates: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/Indexing/Updater_performance_analys… May be useful for evaluation which hardware we may need if we want for updates to coexist with production loads. -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev(a)wikimedia.org

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Event logging caution
by Kevin Smith 01 Jun '15

01 Jun '15

As was mentioned in scrum-of-scrums on May 20, the analytics team is running some Visual Editor A/B tests from now through June 11. As a result, analytics has requested that everyone "reach out to us if you're planning any changes in your Event Logging use" during that time. Hopefully this won't mess up what we're trying to do for the next couple weeks. Kevin Smith Agile Coach Wikimedia Foundation *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment. Help us make it a reality.*

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How do people use the search API?
by Oliver Keyes 22 May '15

22 May '15

Answer: we don't know yet, because there are Infinity ways to search. But for action=opensearch, http://ironholds.org/misc/api_presentation.html might make an interesting read. We're trying to document all the various forms of API search so that we can do more ad-hoc and regular analysis of this stuff. There's an awesome start at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Search_and_discovery that looks pretty complete - if anyone is aware of API methods /not/ listed there, please put them in, or reply here and I will :) -- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation

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Re: [Wikimedia-search] top articles across languages for testing?
by Brian Gerstle 21 May '15

21 May '15

+search On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Brian Gerstle <bgerstle(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > The subject hints at a question that's been nagging me for a while, and > now that I'm going to be hacking on testing in Lyon I wanted to ask: > > Do we have a list of articles we usually run tests against? > > If not, do we have any processes for curating such a list? Would anyone > be interested in a brainstorming session at Lyon to discuss this further? > > Basically, as a developer, I would love to have more confidence that some > code I wrote doesn't break on our most popular articles. Or, if we can get > more sophisticated, that *certain properties of my code hold true for > certain kinds of generated pages*.* > > Please respond with your thoughts and whether you think I should create a > phab task for the hackathon about this. In either case, ping me anytime or > grab me at Lyon to discuss further! > > Regards, > > Brian > > * Yes, I'm talking about using property-based testing generators to create > random, shrinkable MW pages that we can run tests on. Not sure if it's > practical, but could be an interesting experiment. > > -- > EN Wikipedia user page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Brian.gerstle > IRC: bgerstle > -- EN Wikipedia user page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Brian.gerstle IRC: bgerstle

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FYI: Phabricator project renamed
by Kevin Smith 20 May '15

20 May '15

FYI, I just renamed the phabricator Search-Team project to Search-and-Discovery-Department. It still has the #search-team hashtag, so most searches for the old name should still work. This has introduced an inconvenience, thanks to an odd Phabricator behavior. To auto-complete a project name, Phabricator only shows the first 5 matches, AND for some reason it is showing the "Search-and-Discovery-xxx" projects, and not the simpler "Search-and-Discovery". Argh! I have filed a phab ticket for this. I have updated the team page[1] to point to the new phab project. Let me know if there is any other documentation that also needs to be updated. Kevin Smith Agile Coach Wikimedia Foundation *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment. Help us make it a reality.*

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Removed restriction on non-members posting
by Nikolas Everett 20 May '15

20 May '15

I've removed the restriction that this list had on non-members posting to it. Its a public list and it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to have that restriction. Nik

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Maps, Phab, and project naming
by Kevin Smith 20 May '15

20 May '15

Our plan has been to have all Search&Discovery issues managed in the Search-Team phabricator project, and then for each subteam to have a sprint board for its current work. However, Yuri pointed out that people wanting to create a new task related to maps would expect to add it to a project with "maps" in the name. Folks outside our team often would not realize that maps are part of the Search vertical. We really want to consolidate all of our product backlogs in one place, to help keep Dan sane. So I don't think keeping an external high-level "Maps" project is a viable option. And I don't think adding the word "maps" to the main Search-Team project would make sense either. We might want to rename our top-level project to "Search-and-Discovery-Team" for other reasons, but that wouldn't help this specific case. Even if we had a maps-related sprint board whose name would match a phab search for "map", that wouldn't be what we would want. We don't want random users dropping tasks directly into our sprint board. We really want new tasks to land in the product backlog first. Is this just a case where we have to educate folks that "maps" work goes in "Search-Team"? Or are there other options? Kevin Smith Agile Coach Wikimedia Foundation *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment. Help us make it a reality.*

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Fwd: Search API documentation
by S Page 16 May '15

16 May '15

(retrying mail aliases, sorry if you've already seen this) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: S Page <spage(a)wikimedia.org> Date: Thu, May 14, 2015 at 1:04 PM Subject: Search API documentation To: search-tech <search-tech(a)wikimedia.org> Cc: Quim Gil <qgil(a)wikimedia.org>, Brad Jorsch <bjorsch(a)wikimedia.org> Hey, James Douglas talked to me about search APIs. I started an overview of what's available at mw:API:Search_and_discovery <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Search_and_discovery> that links to existing API pages and the generated MediaWiki API help. In particular the API pages have a link to [try in ApiSandbox] so you can load them up and play around with the MediaWiki API search modules. I added a link to this overview on your team's top-level mw:Search and Discovery page <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Search_and_Discovery> page. <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Search_and_Discovery> I'm also writing articles for a planned "Data and developer hub" to encourage third-party developers to use Wikimedia data and APIs. Fortuitously two of the early articles are about how desktop and mobile use search, "Page info in search results" and "Showing nearby wiki information", so API:Search and discovery links to these as well. Though I'm on the Reading team I'll do what I can to document your stuff, particularly what it can do for third-party developers. Cheers, -- =S Page WMF Tech writer

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search@ alias for this list
by Daniel Zahn 16 May '15

16 May '15

Hello list, this is a test mail. If you see it it means you can now also reach this list as the alias search(a)wikimedia.org as requested by Tomasz on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98415 Best regards, Danie -- Daniel Zahn <dzahn(a)wikimedia.org> Operations Engineer

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