It would be easier to manage users' assumptions if we officially defined
reliability (and latency, availability, etc.) for our various environments.
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Oliver Keyes <okeyes(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
Strictly-speaking "production" is the
"primary" cluster but the point
here is about the reliability users assume around a service rather
than the reliability it has.
On 17 June 2015 at 12:09, James Douglas <jdouglas(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
Do we have our definition of production posted
anywhere?
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Oliver Keyes <okeyes(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
>
> Is it running for a really long time? Is it designed to not fall over?
> Is it no longer being actively looked at with the look you give a
> rickety Jenga tower because you're confident it's bug-free? Are users
> being pointed at it without caveats? Then it's production.
>
> On 16 June 2015 at 21:52, Max Semenik <maxsem.wiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > Explain what? Everything we have in labs is for experimentation and
> > prototyping. It should not be used for prod.
> >
> > 16 июня 2015 г. 18:16 пользователь "Oliver Keyes" <
okeyes(a)wikimedia.org>
>
написал:
>
>> Max, could you explain that?
>>
>> On 16 June 2015 at 20:28, Max Semenik <maxsem.wiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Maps is not going to be production-like.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Kevin Smith <ksmith(a)wikimedia.org
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> In a recent meeting, Oliver expressed concerns about us having
> >> >> services
> >> >> running in labs which are treated sort of like they were in
> >> >> production.
> >> >> Examples include WDQS (already) and maps (potentially).
> >> >>
> >> >> We agreed to have this discussion on the mailing list, so this is
an
> >> >> invitation to do so. I am
not familiar enough with the various
> >> >> technical
> >> >> issues to explain them properly, so hopefully someone else will
step
> >> in
> >> and
> >> do so. I believe one big area of concern is analytics.
> >>
> >>
> >> Kevin Smith
> >> Agile Coach
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> >>
> >>
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